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Anon buys a car (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 1 year ago by [M] to c/greentext@sh.itjust.works
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[–] 91 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Dealerships are just another middle man leech that needs to be cast off if we are ever to find peace in this life.

But people seem to have low standards, and they remain.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Dealerships are a reasonable middleman to exist. They provide a legal entity within the state, which is useful for resolving conflicts. They simplify logistics for manufacturers by having set places to deliver larger amounts of cars, and handle issue that arise from shipping more reliably than singular customers.

    There are downsides to them, but none of them actually get better by removing dealerships and having people deal with GM or Toyota directly where there's even more power imbalance.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    I really believe, if you cannot buy a "internal rocket launcher powered go machine" on your own, you shouldn't have it.

    I'm sick of people using dangerous technology without knowing anything about it. I'm not asking people to be able to build it... just know the gas laws at least.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Was a Honda mechanic for a very long time. The base level knowledge of how stuff just works always surprises me. 90s level and earlier cars you could fix alot on your own. 2003 and beyond though, cars are too damn complicated. For mechanics working on them, the labor rate never went up to match the complications with the new crap they put out.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That's intentional. They don't really want anyone to fix their cars because they see it as bad for their bottom line. The best outcome for the car manufacturers is to make a car that is completely irreparable, forcing even a minor failure to require full replacement. The problem, as always, is capitalism.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Its not exactly intentional... but its just convient coincidence. In order to get every ounce of fuel efficiency from an ICE to meet the current envorimental regs, the engine is loaded with hundreds of sensors and computers. But, what is intentional is the manufacturers do not release their diagnostic tools, so only "authorized" mechanics can only trouble shoot problems.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Saab went under because they weren't making enough money from repairs, right? There may be a similar problem with electric engines but I'm sure the car manufacturers will find a way to make them shitty so they can make money.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    That's intentional. They don't really want anyone to fix their cars because they see it as bad for their bottom line. The best outcome for the car manufacturers is to make a car that is completely irreparable, forcing even a minor failure to require full replacement. The problem, as always, is capitalism.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    yeah i miss my 89 nissan. that was a dream to learn mechanics on. i could fit my whole arm in that engine compartment without taking anything out. now we drive a hybrid and i can change the wiper fluid and tires and that little spark box frightens me a little.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I don't really understand how that improves safety. I guarantee you don't know how your computer works because no one knows how a computer works.

    It's all too damn complex now.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I do know how a computer works though, at least the abstract idealized computer. I really hope I know because my last long term project was about machine learning models (not how to apply, but how to improve models), otherwise...

    How it improves safety: Knowing the limits of the system you use is quite useful wouldn't you agree? Knowing why brakes can fail, and in which conditions would be a lifesaver for example.

    Maybe it's ADHD dude, I learn what I use.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    In some places you can build your own. While not very popular, there are several exo-cars that can be purchased as "build your own" kits. They're a nightmare to register, because of safety regs and the difficulty in getting a VIN, but it can be done.

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