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submitted 10 months ago by otto@programming.dev to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

Nextcloud asked in a poll at https://mastodon.social/@nextcloud@mastodon.xyz/115095096413238457 what database its users are running. Interestingly one fifth replied they don't know. Should people know better where their data is stored, or is it a good thing everything is running so smoothly people don't need to know what their software stack is built upon?

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[-] SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 190 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If you're running it in a prebuilt container, as long as it works it shouldn't matter and you don't need to care.

Of course, when your database gets corrupted after Nextcloud updates because you had an app running that isn't supported in the new version, it will suddenly matter a lot.

[-] Pechente@feddit.org 58 points 10 months ago

I‘m using a hosted Nextcloud instance from Hetzner and I have no idea what this is running on either. There’s a significant number of people who didn’t set up their Nextcloud instance, so people not knowing what it’s running on isn’t too surprising.

[-] troed@fedia.io 4 points 10 months ago

Will Nextcloud run apps not marked as compatible with that version?

[-] Getting6409@piefed.ee 2 points 10 months ago

You can specify the behavior in a few places, gui, occ command, config.php. By default no, but if you have an app you want to force in regardless of the version compatibility you can make it so https://help.nextcloud.com/t/help-what-is-app-install-overwrite-for/71523

[-] matzler@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

Bugs still happen. Just did with the most recent version and the polls app and mysql

[-] med@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

And if you don't know what database you're running, how are you backing it up?

If you don't know what database you're running, are you bothering to do a full shutdown before backups? Are you doing backups at all...

[-] SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

Exactly. It's not important ... until it is. :D

[-] lucas@startrek.website 1 points 10 months ago

If you're using the AIO image, backup/restore can handled for you, so no need to worry about the manual steps involved. Or if you're using a VM, a backup can take the form of full system snapshots, so also no need to understand how data are stored. Granted it's always helpful to know what your running, but not necessarily requisite, even for backups.

[-] kossa@feddit.org 1 points 10 months ago

The poll did not ask specifically for self-hosted instances. You know you can buy hosted Nextclouds where the service provider hopefully cares for that stuff? So customers wouldn't know which database they use. I don't know which database my mail provider uses ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[-] med@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Fair enough, I did assume the target audience was selfhosters based on the question.

As for provider backups - well, you'd hope. But M$ doesn't do user available backups, so I'd be surprised if that was bundled by the average SaaS provider.

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