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Telegram is just actually superior in terms of features I don't get it.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Signal is an installable App from an app store.. Where's your matrix and xmpp? That's why they use it over element/etc

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

XMPP arguably has some of of the strongest crypto functionality there is, it's just too dependent on the app to feel safe, since all of the vulnerabilities in these ecosystems are basically down to the client implementation.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Absolutely, and an argument can be made about captive ecosystems controlling both clients and servers. They also represent a single point of failure, so there's no magic bullet. In practice it's also not that different than keeping up with your browser's/OS'/phone's updates and XMPP has that for itself that it has (unlike Matrix) a vibrant community of clients and servers supported by diverse parties (commercial and not).

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Matrix and XMPP have plenty of apps installable from those stores as well, not sure what your argument is about?

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their names are not matrix or xmpp... It's not as easy as saying "Install Signal" is my point.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

that's not even true, if you search "matrix", element is your first result, if you type XMPP, you get "Conversations", exactly as you would expect.