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[–] McMonster@programming.dev 304 points 1 year ago (7 children) IT people hate computers. permalink fedilink source hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 191 points 1 year ago (4 children) IT people hate computers. IT people hate users. IT people hate other IT people. We're just a surly lot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] thessnake03@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (1 child) You just made an enemy for life! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago You IT people sure are a contentious bunch. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago SHUT YOUR DAMN MOUTH! permalink fedilink source parent [–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) true, but we also hate computers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago (2 children) We hate ones setup by other people or used by other users. Our own network is a glorious shrine to the one true faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) Can't argue with that... until something goes wrong and I hate it (really just mad at myself) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lividweasel@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago “Dammit, what idiot set this up this way?” permalink fedilink source parent [–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago My laptop windows 11? No problem. Anyone elses windows? Fucking burn it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago IT people hate people then? Checks out to me actually permalink fedilink source parent [–] CyberTaco@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago (5 children) Correction: IT people hate printers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago Correction: printers hate people. permalink fedilink source parent [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] qqq@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago PC load letter? What the fuck does that mean? permalink fedilink source parent [–] AnotherHelldiver@jlai.lu 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Fuck printers Nom one invented a good printer still permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kramkar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I have read this ten times now, and I still can't figure out what it is supposed to mean.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AnotherHelldiver@jlai.lu 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Printers are known in IT to be a utter pain in the ass. Most brands are also using a lot of proprietary stuff and it limits interoperability. Drivers for example. Well known example is about ink cartridges. HP added identification chips on them, so if you want to use an other brand, not HP, to fill your printer, you can't because if no chip is detected despite a cartridge being inserted, the machine will tell you it is not genuine. Another example with Rycoh. I don't know if their printers still use this method, so take it as an example of capitalist greed more than a current situation. Laser printers are using a sealed container to process waste created during printing. Rycoh had placed a led detector inside to know when it was full and trigger an alert, stopping the machine and request for a change. Good idea in theory but in practice the detector was placed very oddly or on purpose near or in front of dust intake. So it was bathed very quickly in electrostatic dust and thus triggered the alarm very quickly, even if your container was not fully filled. The only way to solve this was to shake your waste storage, hoping it would clean the led enough to keep going for a few days or change it. Lastly, I have a Brother printer, bought to a neighbor sale. The oven inside, which is in charge of heating the ink, had a failure. It had melted. For the price, it was a deal. I only needed to buy a new part, unplug it, replace and I had a laser printer with colours. Well, Brother had lightly soldered pins linking the connector to PCB. When I unplugged it, soldering came with it. I contacted a repair store near me telling me they don't do it and I should ask for a repair to a certified Brother technician. Which is overpriced. I also can't open it fully as it is placed to be impossible to repair without disassembling half of the machine. No printer is the same, some brands are better than others. Some are well accepted on Linux with CUPS, some other not. But so far, not one brand impressed me well enough by their design to keep it open, easily fixable and long lasting. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Devadander@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (1 child) FUCK PRINTERS permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dicska@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago *ZIP* permalink fedilink source parent [–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 15 points 1 year ago (2 children) IT people hate other people using a computer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago I once had to watch a co-worker scroll to the bottom of a list using the little arrow buttons on the end of the scrollbar. Clicking, not holding. That's what my hell would be like. Doing IT support without being able to wrench the mouse out of their hands. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* I hate my computer as well. That's why I have to modify it to something completely different before I am able to use it for basic text editing. I AM TALKING TO YOU EMACS PUT YOUR BACKUPS SOMEWHERE ELSE BY DEFAULT ALREADY I USE GIT permalink fedilink source parent [–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago I'm an IT person and I like computers, as long as they've never been turned on and they stay that way. permalink fedilink source parent [–] abir_v@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Many IT people love computers. They hate computers that other people use. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RadicalCandour@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago This absolutely applies to me. I’m so sick of computers and software and security and subscriptions and vendors. I just want my own animal sanctuary with chickens and otters and baby goats god dammit! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 191 points 1 year ago (4 children) IT people hate computers. IT people hate users. IT people hate other IT people. We're just a surly lot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] thessnake03@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (1 child) You just made an enemy for life! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago You IT people sure are a contentious bunch. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago SHUT YOUR DAMN MOUTH! permalink fedilink source parent [–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) true, but we also hate computers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago (2 children) We hate ones setup by other people or used by other users. Our own network is a glorious shrine to the one true faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) Can't argue with that... until something goes wrong and I hate it (really just mad at myself) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lividweasel@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago “Dammit, what idiot set this up this way?” permalink fedilink source parent [–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago My laptop windows 11? No problem. Anyone elses windows? Fucking burn it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago IT people hate people then? Checks out to me actually permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thessnake03@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (1 child) You just made an enemy for life! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago You IT people sure are a contentious bunch. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago You IT people sure are a contentious bunch. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago SHUT YOUR DAMN MOUTH! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) true, but we also hate computers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago (2 children) We hate ones setup by other people or used by other users. Our own network is a glorious shrine to the one true faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) Can't argue with that... until something goes wrong and I hate it (really just mad at myself) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lividweasel@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago “Dammit, what idiot set this up this way?” permalink fedilink source parent [–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago My laptop windows 11? No problem. Anyone elses windows? Fucking burn it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago (2 children) We hate ones setup by other people or used by other users. Our own network is a glorious shrine to the one true faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) Can't argue with that... until something goes wrong and I hate it (really just mad at myself) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lividweasel@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago “Dammit, what idiot set this up this way?” permalink fedilink source parent [–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago My laptop windows 11? No problem. Anyone elses windows? Fucking burn it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) Can't argue with that... until something goes wrong and I hate it (really just mad at myself) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lividweasel@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago “Dammit, what idiot set this up this way?” permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lividweasel@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago “Dammit, what idiot set this up this way?” permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago My laptop windows 11? No problem. Anyone elses windows? Fucking burn it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago IT people hate people then? Checks out to me actually permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CyberTaco@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago (5 children) Correction: IT people hate printers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago Correction: printers hate people. permalink fedilink source parent [+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] qqq@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago PC load letter? What the fuck does that mean? permalink fedilink source parent [–] AnotherHelldiver@jlai.lu 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Fuck printers Nom one invented a good printer still permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kramkar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I have read this ten times now, and I still can't figure out what it is supposed to mean.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AnotherHelldiver@jlai.lu 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Printers are known in IT to be a utter pain in the ass. Most brands are also using a lot of proprietary stuff and it limits interoperability. Drivers for example. Well known example is about ink cartridges. HP added identification chips on them, so if you want to use an other brand, not HP, to fill your printer, you can't because if no chip is detected despite a cartridge being inserted, the machine will tell you it is not genuine. Another example with Rycoh. I don't know if their printers still use this method, so take it as an example of capitalist greed more than a current situation. Laser printers are using a sealed container to process waste created during printing. Rycoh had placed a led detector inside to know when it was full and trigger an alert, stopping the machine and request for a change. Good idea in theory but in practice the detector was placed very oddly or on purpose near or in front of dust intake. So it was bathed very quickly in electrostatic dust and thus triggered the alarm very quickly, even if your container was not fully filled. The only way to solve this was to shake your waste storage, hoping it would clean the led enough to keep going for a few days or change it. Lastly, I have a Brother printer, bought to a neighbor sale. The oven inside, which is in charge of heating the ink, had a failure. It had melted. For the price, it was a deal. I only needed to buy a new part, unplug it, replace and I had a laser printer with colours. Well, Brother had lightly soldered pins linking the connector to PCB. When I unplugged it, soldering came with it. I contacted a repair store near me telling me they don't do it and I should ask for a repair to a certified Brother technician. Which is overpriced. I also can't open it fully as it is placed to be impossible to repair without disassembling half of the machine. No printer is the same, some brands are better than others. Some are well accepted on Linux with CUPS, some other not. But so far, not one brand impressed me well enough by their design to keep it open, easily fixable and long lasting. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Devadander@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago Correction: printers hate people. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] fossilesque@mander.xyz [S] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] qqq@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago PC load letter? What the fuck does that mean? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AnotherHelldiver@jlai.lu 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Fuck printers Nom one invented a good printer still permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kramkar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I have read this ten times now, and I still can't figure out what it is supposed to mean.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AnotherHelldiver@jlai.lu 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Printers are known in IT to be a utter pain in the ass. Most brands are also using a lot of proprietary stuff and it limits interoperability. Drivers for example. Well known example is about ink cartridges. HP added identification chips on them, so if you want to use an other brand, not HP, to fill your printer, you can't because if no chip is detected despite a cartridge being inserted, the machine will tell you it is not genuine. Another example with Rycoh. I don't know if their printers still use this method, so take it as an example of capitalist greed more than a current situation. Laser printers are using a sealed container to process waste created during printing. Rycoh had placed a led detector inside to know when it was full and trigger an alert, stopping the machine and request for a change. Good idea in theory but in practice the detector was placed very oddly or on purpose near or in front of dust intake. So it was bathed very quickly in electrostatic dust and thus triggered the alarm very quickly, even if your container was not fully filled. The only way to solve this was to shake your waste storage, hoping it would clean the led enough to keep going for a few days or change it. Lastly, I have a Brother printer, bought to a neighbor sale. The oven inside, which is in charge of heating the ink, had a failure. It had melted. For the price, it was a deal. I only needed to buy a new part, unplug it, replace and I had a laser printer with colours. Well, Brother had lightly soldered pins linking the connector to PCB. When I unplugged it, soldering came with it. I contacted a repair store near me telling me they don't do it and I should ask for a repair to a certified Brother technician. Which is overpriced. I also can't open it fully as it is placed to be impossible to repair without disassembling half of the machine. No printer is the same, some brands are better than others. Some are well accepted on Linux with CUPS, some other not. But so far, not one brand impressed me well enough by their design to keep it open, easily fixable and long lasting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kramkar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I have read this ten times now, and I still can't figure out what it is supposed to mean.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AnotherHelldiver@jlai.lu 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Printers are known in IT to be a utter pain in the ass. Most brands are also using a lot of proprietary stuff and it limits interoperability. Drivers for example. Well known example is about ink cartridges. HP added identification chips on them, so if you want to use an other brand, not HP, to fill your printer, you can't because if no chip is detected despite a cartridge being inserted, the machine will tell you it is not genuine. Another example with Rycoh. I don't know if their printers still use this method, so take it as an example of capitalist greed more than a current situation. Laser printers are using a sealed container to process waste created during printing. Rycoh had placed a led detector inside to know when it was full and trigger an alert, stopping the machine and request for a change. Good idea in theory but in practice the detector was placed very oddly or on purpose near or in front of dust intake. So it was bathed very quickly in electrostatic dust and thus triggered the alarm very quickly, even if your container was not fully filled. The only way to solve this was to shake your waste storage, hoping it would clean the led enough to keep going for a few days or change it. Lastly, I have a Brother printer, bought to a neighbor sale. The oven inside, which is in charge of heating the ink, had a failure. It had melted. For the price, it was a deal. I only needed to buy a new part, unplug it, replace and I had a laser printer with colours. Well, Brother had lightly soldered pins linking the connector to PCB. When I unplugged it, soldering came with it. I contacted a repair store near me telling me they don't do it and I should ask for a repair to a certified Brother technician. Which is overpriced. I also can't open it fully as it is placed to be impossible to repair without disassembling half of the machine. No printer is the same, some brands are better than others. Some are well accepted on Linux with CUPS, some other not. But so far, not one brand impressed me well enough by their design to keep it open, easily fixable and long lasting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AnotherHelldiver@jlai.lu 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Printers are known in IT to be a utter pain in the ass. Most brands are also using a lot of proprietary stuff and it limits interoperability. Drivers for example. Well known example is about ink cartridges. HP added identification chips on them, so if you want to use an other brand, not HP, to fill your printer, you can't because if no chip is detected despite a cartridge being inserted, the machine will tell you it is not genuine. Another example with Rycoh. I don't know if their printers still use this method, so take it as an example of capitalist greed more than a current situation. Laser printers are using a sealed container to process waste created during printing. Rycoh had placed a led detector inside to know when it was full and trigger an alert, stopping the machine and request for a change. Good idea in theory but in practice the detector was placed very oddly or on purpose near or in front of dust intake. So it was bathed very quickly in electrostatic dust and thus triggered the alarm very quickly, even if your container was not fully filled. The only way to solve this was to shake your waste storage, hoping it would clean the led enough to keep going for a few days or change it. Lastly, I have a Brother printer, bought to a neighbor sale. The oven inside, which is in charge of heating the ink, had a failure. It had melted. For the price, it was a deal. I only needed to buy a new part, unplug it, replace and I had a laser printer with colours. Well, Brother had lightly soldered pins linking the connector to PCB. When I unplugged it, soldering came with it. I contacted a repair store near me telling me they don't do it and I should ask for a repair to a certified Brother technician. Which is overpriced. I also can't open it fully as it is placed to be impossible to repair without disassembling half of the machine. No printer is the same, some brands are better than others. Some are well accepted on Linux with CUPS, some other not. But so far, not one brand impressed me well enough by their design to keep it open, easily fixable and long lasting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (1 child) FUCK PRINTERS permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dicska@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago *ZIP* permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 15 points 1 year ago (2 children) IT people hate other people using a computer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago I once had to watch a co-worker scroll to the bottom of a list using the little arrow buttons on the end of the scrollbar. Clicking, not holding. That's what my hell would be like. Doing IT support without being able to wrench the mouse out of their hands. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* I hate my computer as well. That's why I have to modify it to something completely different before I am able to use it for basic text editing. I AM TALKING TO YOU EMACS PUT YOUR BACKUPS SOMEWHERE ELSE BY DEFAULT ALREADY I USE GIT permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago I once had to watch a co-worker scroll to the bottom of a list using the little arrow buttons on the end of the scrollbar. Clicking, not holding. That's what my hell would be like. Doing IT support without being able to wrench the mouse out of their hands. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* I hate my computer as well. That's why I have to modify it to something completely different before I am able to use it for basic text editing. I AM TALKING TO YOU EMACS PUT YOUR BACKUPS SOMEWHERE ELSE BY DEFAULT ALREADY I USE GIT permalink fedilink source parent
[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago I'm an IT person and I like computers, as long as they've never been turned on and they stay that way. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] abir_v@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Many IT people love computers. They hate computers that other people use. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RadicalCandour@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago This absolutely applies to me. I’m so sick of computers and software and security and subscriptions and vendors. I just want my own animal sanctuary with chickens and otters and baby goats god dammit! permalink fedilink source parent