▲ 1320 ▼ The Browser Wasn’t Enough, Google Wants To Control All Your Software (hackaday.com) submitted 1 year ago by mesamunefire@piefed.social to c/technology@lemmy.world 394 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] flemtone@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (6 children) Already using GrapheneOs on my phone, so fuck Google. permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 1 year ago (1 child) Wait until Google locks the bootloader. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finix_the_psyker@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) I know that the GrapheneOS team have mumbled about the possibility of working on their own device. Although, this would probably be a long way off if it ever did come to fruition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) Maybe shit like this will push them down that road faster. We need options for sure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago Donate to the project. Graphene is run by a very small group of people who are very good at automation. I don't think they could effectively produce a whole new platform unless they had a lot more help. If you value privacy, gonna have to crack open the wallet or volunteer to help. If we just hope someone will save us, we are going to be very disappointed. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) Then the community shifts to a different model, or puts more resources behind mobile Linux projects, and all that would need to happen is something like what Valve did for Linux for the Steam Deck. I'm ready to switch to a Linux phone as soon as I can find one where the basic phone features work properly (MMS, wake from sleep, camera, etc). The more people like me can switch, the closer we'll be to mainstream adoption. That's the same process as Linux has been going through: I switched before Steam on Linux was a thing, then Steam came and more switched, then Proton made windows games work and more switched, etc, and now we're seeing the start of "normal" people switching. I hope that happens before my Pixel 8 goes out of support or breaks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) https://furilabs.com/shop/flx1/ I'm already seriously considering giving this a go as my next phone soon. My current phone is desperately in need of replacement. If it goes well I will be vocal about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] needanke@feddit.org 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Furi Labs runs a fully optimized system called Furi OS If I were to switch to a Linux phone I'd want it to be made for an open and trusted OS, not the (unknown to me at least) manufacturers own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago Eh, you'd want something like this to run something custom, because there's going to be a lot of iteration and it'll be harder to push things through a distribution they don't control. It seems to be Debian based and has some customizations to make work w/ Android apps nicer (Halium support). I would personally prefer PostmarketOS, but I'd be fine w/ that being a community effort as long as Furilabs doesn't block installing alternatives. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago It is based on Debian (Droidian to be specific I believe), which to me reads as a fork or maybe a distro flavor with out of the box tweaks to specifically work with the hardware they are selling. They say they aren't stopping you from installing anything else you want on the phone, they just aren't going to offer help getting a different OS to work, which is reasonable to me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago Yeah, it looks cool, but I'm not really in a position to be a guinea pig. If they were around 2 years ago, I probably would've given it a shot. I am looking for another phone at some point in the next year (kids getting about that age), so if I hear good things, I might just pull the trigger. It is a bit chonkier than my current phone, which isn't great (30mm longer, 10mm wider, and 110g heavier), but according to reviews, it seems to fix all the issues I have w/ the PinePhone. Who knows, maybe your review will push me over the edge in deciding to get it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] markko@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sucks that it only works on devices made by Google though.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flemtone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago You have LineageOS for many other devices. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tlf@feddit.org 9 points 1 year ago (5 children) Is it good? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago* (3 children) It's very "meh..." with the added benefit of several (non-google) apps not working (/s). I choose to live with this inconvenience, but it still bothers me that my smartphone is significantly less useful in my daily life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) You always have a choice. You can ditch your morals entirely, give up, be subservient to the capitalists and give your identity over fully to the system like the good little consumer slave you are and enjoy your normie life looking at your normie phone and toss us all out as tinfoil-hatted weirdos who almost convinced you to make your life worse for the sake of self-sufficiency, independence and privacy. No one in the real world will ever know, care, or judge you. Only you will know that you gave up, that every location you exist in is known about by someone behind a monitor being overseen by fascists. Every day! You can live with that, right? That's a small thing to give up in the grand scheme of things, isn't it? At least Youtube loaded today, right? It's all worth it, lol. Just remember to type "thanks" in google keyboard whenever you want them to know you appreciate them. They log it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) Oh yes I forgot that pointing out the flaws in privacy-related things, so people who are interested in switching know what they're potentially getting in to, is a big NoNo here...all hail the perfect FOSS which can do no wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Don't feel pressured by me. If you feel pressured yourself, it may be a form of projected guilt. If you don't find privacy and security important enough to give up your connectivity or usability, that's perfectly fine. I don't have to live with it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) The purity tests are so exhausting permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ILikePigeons@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago Yup, privacy (and many other things) should be done to ones ability and not to ability of others. permalink fedilink source parent [+] M1ch431@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) They’re the ones foisting their requirements on others. Somebody shares what they do, and the purists come storming in with their righteous condescension. Nobody asked for that negativity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) In this case, your assessment is fair - user is harsh, name-calls, and does talk down to the person they were responding to/the reader. I got lost in the chain. Regardless, accusations of purity testing come up more than enough online for my liking and it isn't always in response to righteous condescension, as you aptly described the user's behavior in this example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Wow, this definitely isn’t reddit! Thank you for having a reasonable discussion. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rooty@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago Dead Kennedys were prophetic when they named one of their albums "Give me convenience or give me death". permalink fedilink source parent [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Honestly, smart phones being less useful in daily life is probably a good thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] markko@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Having not used default Android for many years now, what makes GrapheneOS worse (aside from a few apps not working - which isn't an issue I've had, fortunately)? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) GrapheneOS is not worse than other custom ROMs, never said it was. it's a mediocre experience best described with a "meh..." and a shrug. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] markko@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, I was asking about GrapheneOS vs stock Android. I assumed that your comments on it were in comparison to stock Android since that's what the previous user most likely was asking for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago The answer is the same, very average. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 2deck@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago Yes, ive had zero issues with it 👍 permalink fedilink source parent [–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago I went from 15 years of iPhones directly to Graphene, without really messing with Android in between, so my experience has been a STEEP learning curve, followed by a fairly hum-drum experience. But honestly, that's fine. I want my phone to take more of a back seat and not be something I keep needing to worry about. My banking app doesn't work in Graphene, but the website does, so I don't really mind. It could that there's a whole bunch of shit I'm missing, but mostly it's... fine. permalink fedilink source parent [–] flemtone@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Yes, light and my apps work without draining the battery in the background. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You have to pay google to use it (only works on pixel phones afaik). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago There's a thriving used market with significant discounts if you're willing to go 1-2 models back from the latest ones. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago The issue isn't that. It's that devs may juat abandon projects if they're too naughty for Google cos the custom ROM crowd is so tiny. Right so think torrent clients, idk, Pornhub app, that sort of thing. Yeah, it doesn't affect your phone. But it absolutely will affect what software is available at all should Google clamp down on this. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) What kind of phone? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I want to know, too. I got a Samsung s23 when my last phone suddenly died and I only then realized thar it wasn't compatible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rainbowblite@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago (3 children) The joke is that GrapheneOS only works on Google Pixel phones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (2 children) Fuck Google! Gives Google $900 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago Eh, I got a used Pixel 8 for $350 or so, and it works great with GrapheneOS. My gold standard is a proper Linux phone, but those aren't reliable enough yet, so using Google's phone is the next best option. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago I spent a mere $500 for my Pixel 9a. Most expensive phone I've ever owned. But at least I can send a text message from inside my house and make phones from out in my yard now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I noticed that, and they are expensive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Bought a Pixel 7a new below 350 EUR last december. Buying used is also an option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago That is reasonably priced. I have another year on my current phone before it is paid off. I armored it up like there is no tomorrow so it should last without a breakage. I had a problem for years of buying cases and tempered glass for my phone since I had a phone break BECAUSE of those things. permalink fedilink source parent [–] magguzu@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago You can get a cheap refurb Pixel. The returns are very diminishing these days on new models anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [–] flemtone@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Pixel 6 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 1 year ago (1 child) Wait until Google locks the bootloader. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finix_the_psyker@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) I know that the GrapheneOS team have mumbled about the possibility of working on their own device. Although, this would probably be a long way off if it ever did come to fruition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) Maybe shit like this will push them down that road faster. We need options for sure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago Donate to the project. Graphene is run by a very small group of people who are very good at automation. I don't think they could effectively produce a whole new platform unless they had a lot more help. If you value privacy, gonna have to crack open the wallet or volunteer to help. If we just hope someone will save us, we are going to be very disappointed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] finix_the_psyker@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) I know that the GrapheneOS team have mumbled about the possibility of working on their own device. Although, this would probably be a long way off if it ever did come to fruition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) Maybe shit like this will push them down that road faster. We need options for sure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago Donate to the project. Graphene is run by a very small group of people who are very good at automation. I don't think they could effectively produce a whole new platform unless they had a lot more help. If you value privacy, gonna have to crack open the wallet or volunteer to help. If we just hope someone will save us, we are going to be very disappointed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) Maybe shit like this will push them down that road faster. We need options for sure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago Donate to the project. Graphene is run by a very small group of people who are very good at automation. I don't think they could effectively produce a whole new platform unless they had a lot more help. If you value privacy, gonna have to crack open the wallet or volunteer to help. If we just hope someone will save us, we are going to be very disappointed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago Donate to the project. Graphene is run by a very small group of people who are very good at automation. I don't think they could effectively produce a whole new platform unless they had a lot more help. If you value privacy, gonna have to crack open the wallet or volunteer to help. If we just hope someone will save us, we are going to be very disappointed. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) Then the community shifts to a different model, or puts more resources behind mobile Linux projects, and all that would need to happen is something like what Valve did for Linux for the Steam Deck. I'm ready to switch to a Linux phone as soon as I can find one where the basic phone features work properly (MMS, wake from sleep, camera, etc). The more people like me can switch, the closer we'll be to mainstream adoption. That's the same process as Linux has been going through: I switched before Steam on Linux was a thing, then Steam came and more switched, then Proton made windows games work and more switched, etc, and now we're seeing the start of "normal" people switching. I hope that happens before my Pixel 8 goes out of support or breaks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) https://furilabs.com/shop/flx1/ I'm already seriously considering giving this a go as my next phone soon. My current phone is desperately in need of replacement. If it goes well I will be vocal about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] needanke@feddit.org 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Furi Labs runs a fully optimized system called Furi OS If I were to switch to a Linux phone I'd want it to be made for an open and trusted OS, not the (unknown to me at least) manufacturers own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago Eh, you'd want something like this to run something custom, because there's going to be a lot of iteration and it'll be harder to push things through a distribution they don't control. It seems to be Debian based and has some customizations to make work w/ Android apps nicer (Halium support). I would personally prefer PostmarketOS, but I'd be fine w/ that being a community effort as long as Furilabs doesn't block installing alternatives. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago It is based on Debian (Droidian to be specific I believe), which to me reads as a fork or maybe a distro flavor with out of the box tweaks to specifically work with the hardware they are selling. They say they aren't stopping you from installing anything else you want on the phone, they just aren't going to offer help getting a different OS to work, which is reasonable to me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago Yeah, it looks cool, but I'm not really in a position to be a guinea pig. If they were around 2 years ago, I probably would've given it a shot. I am looking for another phone at some point in the next year (kids getting about that age), so if I hear good things, I might just pull the trigger. It is a bit chonkier than my current phone, which isn't great (30mm longer, 10mm wider, and 110g heavier), but according to reviews, it seems to fix all the issues I have w/ the PinePhone. Who knows, maybe your review will push me over the edge in deciding to get it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) Then the community shifts to a different model, or puts more resources behind mobile Linux projects, and all that would need to happen is something like what Valve did for Linux for the Steam Deck. I'm ready to switch to a Linux phone as soon as I can find one where the basic phone features work properly (MMS, wake from sleep, camera, etc). The more people like me can switch, the closer we'll be to mainstream adoption. That's the same process as Linux has been going through: I switched before Steam on Linux was a thing, then Steam came and more switched, then Proton made windows games work and more switched, etc, and now we're seeing the start of "normal" people switching. I hope that happens before my Pixel 8 goes out of support or breaks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) https://furilabs.com/shop/flx1/ I'm already seriously considering giving this a go as my next phone soon. My current phone is desperately in need of replacement. If it goes well I will be vocal about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] needanke@feddit.org 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Furi Labs runs a fully optimized system called Furi OS If I were to switch to a Linux phone I'd want it to be made for an open and trusted OS, not the (unknown to me at least) manufacturers own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago Eh, you'd want something like this to run something custom, because there's going to be a lot of iteration and it'll be harder to push things through a distribution they don't control. It seems to be Debian based and has some customizations to make work w/ Android apps nicer (Halium support). I would personally prefer PostmarketOS, but I'd be fine w/ that being a community effort as long as Furilabs doesn't block installing alternatives. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago It is based on Debian (Droidian to be specific I believe), which to me reads as a fork or maybe a distro flavor with out of the box tweaks to specifically work with the hardware they are selling. They say they aren't stopping you from installing anything else you want on the phone, they just aren't going to offer help getting a different OS to work, which is reasonable to me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago Yeah, it looks cool, but I'm not really in a position to be a guinea pig. If they were around 2 years ago, I probably would've given it a shot. I am looking for another phone at some point in the next year (kids getting about that age), so if I hear good things, I might just pull the trigger. It is a bit chonkier than my current phone, which isn't great (30mm longer, 10mm wider, and 110g heavier), but according to reviews, it seems to fix all the issues I have w/ the PinePhone. Who knows, maybe your review will push me over the edge in deciding to get it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) https://furilabs.com/shop/flx1/ I'm already seriously considering giving this a go as my next phone soon. My current phone is desperately in need of replacement. If it goes well I will be vocal about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] needanke@feddit.org 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Furi Labs runs a fully optimized system called Furi OS If I were to switch to a Linux phone I'd want it to be made for an open and trusted OS, not the (unknown to me at least) manufacturers own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago Eh, you'd want something like this to run something custom, because there's going to be a lot of iteration and it'll be harder to push things through a distribution they don't control. It seems to be Debian based and has some customizations to make work w/ Android apps nicer (Halium support). I would personally prefer PostmarketOS, but I'd be fine w/ that being a community effort as long as Furilabs doesn't block installing alternatives. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago It is based on Debian (Droidian to be specific I believe), which to me reads as a fork or maybe a distro flavor with out of the box tweaks to specifically work with the hardware they are selling. They say they aren't stopping you from installing anything else you want on the phone, they just aren't going to offer help getting a different OS to work, which is reasonable to me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago Yeah, it looks cool, but I'm not really in a position to be a guinea pig. If they were around 2 years ago, I probably would've given it a shot. I am looking for another phone at some point in the next year (kids getting about that age), so if I hear good things, I might just pull the trigger. It is a bit chonkier than my current phone, which isn't great (30mm longer, 10mm wider, and 110g heavier), but according to reviews, it seems to fix all the issues I have w/ the PinePhone. Who knows, maybe your review will push me over the edge in deciding to get it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] needanke@feddit.org 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Furi Labs runs a fully optimized system called Furi OS If I were to switch to a Linux phone I'd want it to be made for an open and trusted OS, not the (unknown to me at least) manufacturers own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago Eh, you'd want something like this to run something custom, because there's going to be a lot of iteration and it'll be harder to push things through a distribution they don't control. It seems to be Debian based and has some customizations to make work w/ Android apps nicer (Halium support). I would personally prefer PostmarketOS, but I'd be fine w/ that being a community effort as long as Furilabs doesn't block installing alternatives. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago It is based on Debian (Droidian to be specific I believe), which to me reads as a fork or maybe a distro flavor with out of the box tweaks to specifically work with the hardware they are selling. They say they aren't stopping you from installing anything else you want on the phone, they just aren't going to offer help getting a different OS to work, which is reasonable to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago Eh, you'd want something like this to run something custom, because there's going to be a lot of iteration and it'll be harder to push things through a distribution they don't control. It seems to be Debian based and has some customizations to make work w/ Android apps nicer (Halium support). I would personally prefer PostmarketOS, but I'd be fine w/ that being a community effort as long as Furilabs doesn't block installing alternatives. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago It is based on Debian (Droidian to be specific I believe), which to me reads as a fork or maybe a distro flavor with out of the box tweaks to specifically work with the hardware they are selling. They say they aren't stopping you from installing anything else you want on the phone, they just aren't going to offer help getting a different OS to work, which is reasonable to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago Yeah, it looks cool, but I'm not really in a position to be a guinea pig. If they were around 2 years ago, I probably would've given it a shot. I am looking for another phone at some point in the next year (kids getting about that age), so if I hear good things, I might just pull the trigger. It is a bit chonkier than my current phone, which isn't great (30mm longer, 10mm wider, and 110g heavier), but according to reviews, it seems to fix all the issues I have w/ the PinePhone. Who knows, maybe your review will push me over the edge in deciding to get it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] markko@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sucks that it only works on devices made by Google though.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flemtone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago You have LineageOS for many other devices. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] flemtone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago You have LineageOS for many other devices. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tlf@feddit.org 9 points 1 year ago (5 children) Is it good? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago* (3 children) It's very "meh..." with the added benefit of several (non-google) apps not working (/s). I choose to live with this inconvenience, but it still bothers me that my smartphone is significantly less useful in my daily life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) You always have a choice. You can ditch your morals entirely, give up, be subservient to the capitalists and give your identity over fully to the system like the good little consumer slave you are and enjoy your normie life looking at your normie phone and toss us all out as tinfoil-hatted weirdos who almost convinced you to make your life worse for the sake of self-sufficiency, independence and privacy. No one in the real world will ever know, care, or judge you. Only you will know that you gave up, that every location you exist in is known about by someone behind a monitor being overseen by fascists. Every day! You can live with that, right? That's a small thing to give up in the grand scheme of things, isn't it? At least Youtube loaded today, right? It's all worth it, lol. Just remember to type "thanks" in google keyboard whenever you want them to know you appreciate them. They log it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) Oh yes I forgot that pointing out the flaws in privacy-related things, so people who are interested in switching know what they're potentially getting in to, is a big NoNo here...all hail the perfect FOSS which can do no wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Don't feel pressured by me. If you feel pressured yourself, it may be a form of projected guilt. If you don't find privacy and security important enough to give up your connectivity or usability, that's perfectly fine. I don't have to live with it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) The purity tests are so exhausting permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ILikePigeons@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago Yup, privacy (and many other things) should be done to ones ability and not to ability of others. permalink fedilink source parent [+] M1ch431@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) They’re the ones foisting their requirements on others. Somebody shares what they do, and the purists come storming in with their righteous condescension. Nobody asked for that negativity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) In this case, your assessment is fair - user is harsh, name-calls, and does talk down to the person they were responding to/the reader. I got lost in the chain. Regardless, accusations of purity testing come up more than enough online for my liking and it isn't always in response to righteous condescension, as you aptly described the user's behavior in this example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Wow, this definitely isn’t reddit! Thank you for having a reasonable discussion. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rooty@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago Dead Kennedys were prophetic when they named one of their albums "Give me convenience or give me death". permalink fedilink source parent [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Honestly, smart phones being less useful in daily life is probably a good thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] markko@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Having not used default Android for many years now, what makes GrapheneOS worse (aside from a few apps not working - which isn't an issue I've had, fortunately)? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) GrapheneOS is not worse than other custom ROMs, never said it was. it's a mediocre experience best described with a "meh..." and a shrug. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] markko@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, I was asking about GrapheneOS vs stock Android. I assumed that your comments on it were in comparison to stock Android since that's what the previous user most likely was asking for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago The answer is the same, very average. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 2deck@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago Yes, ive had zero issues with it 👍 permalink fedilink source parent [–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago I went from 15 years of iPhones directly to Graphene, without really messing with Android in between, so my experience has been a STEEP learning curve, followed by a fairly hum-drum experience. But honestly, that's fine. I want my phone to take more of a back seat and not be something I keep needing to worry about. My banking app doesn't work in Graphene, but the website does, so I don't really mind. It could that there's a whole bunch of shit I'm missing, but mostly it's... fine. permalink fedilink source parent [–] flemtone@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Yes, light and my apps work without draining the battery in the background. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You have to pay google to use it (only works on pixel phones afaik). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago There's a thriving used market with significant discounts if you're willing to go 1-2 models back from the latest ones. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago* (3 children) It's very "meh..." with the added benefit of several (non-google) apps not working (/s). I choose to live with this inconvenience, but it still bothers me that my smartphone is significantly less useful in my daily life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) You always have a choice. You can ditch your morals entirely, give up, be subservient to the capitalists and give your identity over fully to the system like the good little consumer slave you are and enjoy your normie life looking at your normie phone and toss us all out as tinfoil-hatted weirdos who almost convinced you to make your life worse for the sake of self-sufficiency, independence and privacy. No one in the real world will ever know, care, or judge you. Only you will know that you gave up, that every location you exist in is known about by someone behind a monitor being overseen by fascists. Every day! You can live with that, right? That's a small thing to give up in the grand scheme of things, isn't it? At least Youtube loaded today, right? It's all worth it, lol. Just remember to type "thanks" in google keyboard whenever you want them to know you appreciate them. They log it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) Oh yes I forgot that pointing out the flaws in privacy-related things, so people who are interested in switching know what they're potentially getting in to, is a big NoNo here...all hail the perfect FOSS which can do no wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Don't feel pressured by me. If you feel pressured yourself, it may be a form of projected guilt. If you don't find privacy and security important enough to give up your connectivity or usability, that's perfectly fine. I don't have to live with it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) The purity tests are so exhausting permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ILikePigeons@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago Yup, privacy (and many other things) should be done to ones ability and not to ability of others. permalink fedilink source parent [+] M1ch431@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) They’re the ones foisting their requirements on others. Somebody shares what they do, and the purists come storming in with their righteous condescension. Nobody asked for that negativity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) In this case, your assessment is fair - user is harsh, name-calls, and does talk down to the person they were responding to/the reader. I got lost in the chain. Regardless, accusations of purity testing come up more than enough online for my liking and it isn't always in response to righteous condescension, as you aptly described the user's behavior in this example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Wow, this definitely isn’t reddit! Thank you for having a reasonable discussion. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rooty@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago Dead Kennedys were prophetic when they named one of their albums "Give me convenience or give me death". permalink fedilink source parent [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Honestly, smart phones being less useful in daily life is probably a good thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] markko@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Having not used default Android for many years now, what makes GrapheneOS worse (aside from a few apps not working - which isn't an issue I've had, fortunately)? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) GrapheneOS is not worse than other custom ROMs, never said it was. it's a mediocre experience best described with a "meh..." and a shrug. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] markko@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, I was asking about GrapheneOS vs stock Android. I assumed that your comments on it were in comparison to stock Android since that's what the previous user most likely was asking for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago The answer is the same, very average. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) You always have a choice. You can ditch your morals entirely, give up, be subservient to the capitalists and give your identity over fully to the system like the good little consumer slave you are and enjoy your normie life looking at your normie phone and toss us all out as tinfoil-hatted weirdos who almost convinced you to make your life worse for the sake of self-sufficiency, independence and privacy. No one in the real world will ever know, care, or judge you. Only you will know that you gave up, that every location you exist in is known about by someone behind a monitor being overseen by fascists. Every day! You can live with that, right? That's a small thing to give up in the grand scheme of things, isn't it? At least Youtube loaded today, right? It's all worth it, lol. Just remember to type "thanks" in google keyboard whenever you want them to know you appreciate them. They log it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) Oh yes I forgot that pointing out the flaws in privacy-related things, so people who are interested in switching know what they're potentially getting in to, is a big NoNo here...all hail the perfect FOSS which can do no wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Don't feel pressured by me. If you feel pressured yourself, it may be a form of projected guilt. If you don't find privacy and security important enough to give up your connectivity or usability, that's perfectly fine. I don't have to live with it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) The purity tests are so exhausting permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ILikePigeons@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago Yup, privacy (and many other things) should be done to ones ability and not to ability of others. permalink fedilink source parent [+] M1ch431@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) They’re the ones foisting their requirements on others. Somebody shares what they do, and the purists come storming in with their righteous condescension. Nobody asked for that negativity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) In this case, your assessment is fair - user is harsh, name-calls, and does talk down to the person they were responding to/the reader. I got lost in the chain. Regardless, accusations of purity testing come up more than enough online for my liking and it isn't always in response to righteous condescension, as you aptly described the user's behavior in this example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Wow, this definitely isn’t reddit! Thank you for having a reasonable discussion. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rooty@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago Dead Kennedys were prophetic when they named one of their albums "Give me convenience or give me death". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) Oh yes I forgot that pointing out the flaws in privacy-related things, so people who are interested in switching know what they're potentially getting in to, is a big NoNo here...all hail the perfect FOSS which can do no wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Don't feel pressured by me. If you feel pressured yourself, it may be a form of projected guilt. If you don't find privacy and security important enough to give up your connectivity or usability, that's perfectly fine. I don't have to live with it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) The purity tests are so exhausting permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ILikePigeons@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago Yup, privacy (and many other things) should be done to ones ability and not to ability of others. permalink fedilink source parent [+] M1ch431@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) They’re the ones foisting their requirements on others. Somebody shares what they do, and the purists come storming in with their righteous condescension. Nobody asked for that negativity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) In this case, your assessment is fair - user is harsh, name-calls, and does talk down to the person they were responding to/the reader. I got lost in the chain. Regardless, accusations of purity testing come up more than enough online for my liking and it isn't always in response to righteous condescension, as you aptly described the user's behavior in this example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Wow, this definitely isn’t reddit! Thank you for having a reasonable discussion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Don't feel pressured by me. If you feel pressured yourself, it may be a form of projected guilt. If you don't find privacy and security important enough to give up your connectivity or usability, that's perfectly fine. I don't have to live with it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) The purity tests are so exhausting permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ILikePigeons@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago Yup, privacy (and many other things) should be done to ones ability and not to ability of others. permalink fedilink source parent [+] M1ch431@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) They’re the ones foisting their requirements on others. Somebody shares what they do, and the purists come storming in with their righteous condescension. Nobody asked for that negativity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) In this case, your assessment is fair - user is harsh, name-calls, and does talk down to the person they were responding to/the reader. I got lost in the chain. Regardless, accusations of purity testing come up more than enough online for my liking and it isn't always in response to righteous condescension, as you aptly described the user's behavior in this example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Wow, this definitely isn’t reddit! Thank you for having a reasonable discussion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ILikePigeons@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago Yup, privacy (and many other things) should be done to ones ability and not to ability of others. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] M1ch431@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) They’re the ones foisting their requirements on others. Somebody shares what they do, and the purists come storming in with their righteous condescension. Nobody asked for that negativity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) In this case, your assessment is fair - user is harsh, name-calls, and does talk down to the person they were responding to/the reader. I got lost in the chain. Regardless, accusations of purity testing come up more than enough online for my liking and it isn't always in response to righteous condescension, as you aptly described the user's behavior in this example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Wow, this definitely isn’t reddit! Thank you for having a reasonable discussion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) They’re the ones foisting their requirements on others. Somebody shares what they do, and the purists come storming in with their righteous condescension. Nobody asked for that negativity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) In this case, your assessment is fair - user is harsh, name-calls, and does talk down to the person they were responding to/the reader. I got lost in the chain. Regardless, accusations of purity testing come up more than enough online for my liking and it isn't always in response to righteous condescension, as you aptly described the user's behavior in this example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Wow, this definitely isn’t reddit! Thank you for having a reasonable discussion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) In this case, your assessment is fair - user is harsh, name-calls, and does talk down to the person they were responding to/the reader. I got lost in the chain. Regardless, accusations of purity testing come up more than enough online for my liking and it isn't always in response to righteous condescension, as you aptly described the user's behavior in this example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Wow, this definitely isn’t reddit! Thank you for having a reasonable discussion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago Wow, this definitely isn’t reddit! Thank you for having a reasonable discussion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago Dead Kennedys were prophetic when they named one of their albums "Give me convenience or give me death". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Honestly, smart phones being less useful in daily life is probably a good thing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] markko@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Having not used default Android for many years now, what makes GrapheneOS worse (aside from a few apps not working - which isn't an issue I've had, fortunately)? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) GrapheneOS is not worse than other custom ROMs, never said it was. it's a mediocre experience best described with a "meh..." and a shrug. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] markko@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, I was asking about GrapheneOS vs stock Android. I assumed that your comments on it were in comparison to stock Android since that's what the previous user most likely was asking for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago The answer is the same, very average. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) GrapheneOS is not worse than other custom ROMs, never said it was. it's a mediocre experience best described with a "meh..." and a shrug. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] markko@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, I was asking about GrapheneOS vs stock Android. I assumed that your comments on it were in comparison to stock Android since that's what the previous user most likely was asking for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago The answer is the same, very average. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] markko@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry, I was asking about GrapheneOS vs stock Android. I assumed that your comments on it were in comparison to stock Android since that's what the previous user most likely was asking for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago The answer is the same, very average. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago The answer is the same, very average. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 2deck@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago Yes, ive had zero issues with it 👍 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago I went from 15 years of iPhones directly to Graphene, without really messing with Android in between, so my experience has been a STEEP learning curve, followed by a fairly hum-drum experience. But honestly, that's fine. I want my phone to take more of a back seat and not be something I keep needing to worry about. My banking app doesn't work in Graphene, but the website does, so I don't really mind. It could that there's a whole bunch of shit I'm missing, but mostly it's... fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] flemtone@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Yes, light and my apps work without draining the battery in the background. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You have to pay google to use it (only works on pixel phones afaik). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago There's a thriving used market with significant discounts if you're willing to go 1-2 models back from the latest ones. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago There's a thriving used market with significant discounts if you're willing to go 1-2 models back from the latest ones. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago The issue isn't that. It's that devs may juat abandon projects if they're too naughty for Google cos the custom ROM crowd is so tiny. Right so think torrent clients, idk, Pornhub app, that sort of thing. Yeah, it doesn't affect your phone. But it absolutely will affect what software is available at all should Google clamp down on this. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) What kind of phone? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I want to know, too. I got a Samsung s23 when my last phone suddenly died and I only then realized thar it wasn't compatible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rainbowblite@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago (3 children) The joke is that GrapheneOS only works on Google Pixel phones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (2 children) Fuck Google! Gives Google $900 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago Eh, I got a used Pixel 8 for $350 or so, and it works great with GrapheneOS. My gold standard is a proper Linux phone, but those aren't reliable enough yet, so using Google's phone is the next best option. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago I spent a mere $500 for my Pixel 9a. Most expensive phone I've ever owned. But at least I can send a text message from inside my house and make phones from out in my yard now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I noticed that, and they are expensive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Bought a Pixel 7a new below 350 EUR last december. Buying used is also an option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago That is reasonably priced. I have another year on my current phone before it is paid off. I armored it up like there is no tomorrow so it should last without a breakage. I had a problem for years of buying cases and tempered glass for my phone since I had a phone break BECAUSE of those things. permalink fedilink source parent [–] magguzu@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago You can get a cheap refurb Pixel. The returns are very diminishing these days on new models anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [–] flemtone@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Pixel 6 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I want to know, too. I got a Samsung s23 when my last phone suddenly died and I only then realized thar it wasn't compatible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rainbowblite@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago (3 children) The joke is that GrapheneOS only works on Google Pixel phones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (2 children) Fuck Google! Gives Google $900 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago Eh, I got a used Pixel 8 for $350 or so, and it works great with GrapheneOS. My gold standard is a proper Linux phone, but those aren't reliable enough yet, so using Google's phone is the next best option. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago I spent a mere $500 for my Pixel 9a. Most expensive phone I've ever owned. But at least I can send a text message from inside my house and make phones from out in my yard now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I noticed that, and they are expensive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Bought a Pixel 7a new below 350 EUR last december. Buying used is also an option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago That is reasonably priced. I have another year on my current phone before it is paid off. I armored it up like there is no tomorrow so it should last without a breakage. I had a problem for years of buying cases and tempered glass for my phone since I had a phone break BECAUSE of those things. permalink fedilink source parent [–] magguzu@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago You can get a cheap refurb Pixel. The returns are very diminishing these days on new models anyway. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rainbowblite@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago (3 children) The joke is that GrapheneOS only works on Google Pixel phones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (2 children) Fuck Google! Gives Google $900 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago Eh, I got a used Pixel 8 for $350 or so, and it works great with GrapheneOS. My gold standard is a proper Linux phone, but those aren't reliable enough yet, so using Google's phone is the next best option. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago I spent a mere $500 for my Pixel 9a. Most expensive phone I've ever owned. But at least I can send a text message from inside my house and make phones from out in my yard now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I noticed that, and they are expensive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Bought a Pixel 7a new below 350 EUR last december. Buying used is also an option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago That is reasonably priced. I have another year on my current phone before it is paid off. I armored it up like there is no tomorrow so it should last without a breakage. I had a problem for years of buying cases and tempered glass for my phone since I had a phone break BECAUSE of those things. permalink fedilink source parent [–] magguzu@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago You can get a cheap refurb Pixel. The returns are very diminishing these days on new models anyway. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (2 children) Fuck Google! Gives Google $900 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago Eh, I got a used Pixel 8 for $350 or so, and it works great with GrapheneOS. My gold standard is a proper Linux phone, but those aren't reliable enough yet, so using Google's phone is the next best option. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago I spent a mere $500 for my Pixel 9a. Most expensive phone I've ever owned. But at least I can send a text message from inside my house and make phones from out in my yard now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago Eh, I got a used Pixel 8 for $350 or so, and it works great with GrapheneOS. My gold standard is a proper Linux phone, but those aren't reliable enough yet, so using Google's phone is the next best option. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago I spent a mere $500 for my Pixel 9a. Most expensive phone I've ever owned. But at least I can send a text message from inside my house and make phones from out in my yard now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I noticed that, and they are expensive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Bought a Pixel 7a new below 350 EUR last december. Buying used is also an option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago That is reasonably priced. I have another year on my current phone before it is paid off. I armored it up like there is no tomorrow so it should last without a breakage. I had a problem for years of buying cases and tempered glass for my phone since I had a phone break BECAUSE of those things. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Bought a Pixel 7a new below 350 EUR last december. Buying used is also an option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago That is reasonably priced. I have another year on my current phone before it is paid off. I armored it up like there is no tomorrow so it should last without a breakage. I had a problem for years of buying cases and tempered glass for my phone since I had a phone break BECAUSE of those things. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago That is reasonably priced. I have another year on my current phone before it is paid off. I armored it up like there is no tomorrow so it should last without a breakage. I had a problem for years of buying cases and tempered glass for my phone since I had a phone break BECAUSE of those things. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] magguzu@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago You can get a cheap refurb Pixel. The returns are very diminishing these days on new models anyway. permalink fedilink source parent