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C'mon. I just said I don't want to do this. I don't want to have this argument.
I'm familiar with the view, and I don't find it convincing.
Your view isn't supported by any successful Marxists projects (to my knowledge), and is directly opposed by at least one (Juche).
You are welcome to your religious beliefs, but I do not share them and do not see them as integral to Marxism.
I, of course, find factory farming under capitalism to be abominably cruel. I don't see individual actions as effective in opposing it.
I would rip the throat out of a deer with my bare teeth, if I could.
Just because something is “marxist” doesn’t make it objectively correct. I don’t limit myself to things Marxists did because that’s a silly bastardization of Marxism.
I can take inspiration, but that’s a different thing entirely.
My understanding of this thread is that I:
told rjs001 that I didn't agree with the root of their argument (the specie-ism argument for veganism).
I attempted to avoid this very conversation by "agreeing to disagree" - we've all seen this argument play out, and know no one is changing their mind.
You chose to ignore my wishes, and plunged ahead with the same argument we've all seen, ostensibly to evangelize.
This reads, to me, as a really gross attempt to backdoor out of the conversation by acting like your personal choice to be a vegan is being criticized.
It is not. I am happy that you are happy with your choices, and the diet you've chosen.
You've moved from grandiose statements about me ("Either all conscious life is sacred, none of it is, or the life that you care about or directly benefits you is sacred") to "I" statements.
You are very welcome to be a vegan. You are not welcome to use your spiritual understanding to persuade me to be a vegan. I don't talk to Mormon missionaries for a reason.
I'm happy for you. You're welcome to your religious understanding. I do not share it.
I do not want to re-hash an argument over the specie-ism argument for veganism.
If you can't link that argument to Marxism, I would like you to leave me alone about it, please.
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