this post was submitted on 26 Jun 2023
581 points (100.0% liked)

Chat

7499 readers
72 users here now

Relaxed section for discussion and debate that doesn't fit anywhere else. Whether it's advice, how your week is going, a link that's at the back of your mind, or something like that, it can likely go here.


Subcommunities on Beehaw:


This community's icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

although this is unlikely to substantially and directly impact us and is a more immediate concern for Mastodon and similar fediverse software, we've signed the Anti-Meta Fedi Pact as a matter of principle. that pact pledges the following:

i am an instance admin/mod on the fediverse. by signing this pact, i hereby agree to block any instances owned by meta should they pop up on the fediverse. project92 is a real and serious threat to the health and longevity of fedi and must be fought back against at every possible opportunity

the maintainer of the site is currently a little busy and seems to manually add signatures so we may not appear on there for several days but here's a quick receipt that we did indeed sign it.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

I'm not shure, there are a few good arguments against plain blocking of Meta.

This article is mostly against federating
https://privacy.thenexus.today/should-the-fediverse-welcome-surveillance-capitalism/

it does highlight contra's:

John Gruber describes the Anti-Meta Pact as "petty and deliberately insular" and suggests that the whole point of ActivityPub is to turn social networking into something more akin to email, which he describes as "truly open."1

Tristan Louis says "The anti-Meta #Fedipact can only achieve one thing: make sure that #ActivityPub loses to the Bluesky protocol."2

Dan Gillmor suggests that "preemptively blocking them -- and the people already using them -- from your instance guarantees less relevance for the fediverse."

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think that largely the fediverse has drawn people that are against corporate control and want to go back to a more community-oriented system. I also think that there is a lot of cynicism and lack of trust in corporate social media that is growing with time.

For these reasons, I don't think that Bluesky or a corporate takeover is welcome and that people will switch over to it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

How can we promote open standards like activitypub while blocking anone else entry.

On meta this is difficult, any Non disclosure Agreement is evil, Everything has to be in the open. and considering the history of FB/meta i'm verry sceptical. But still, open standards, open discussion , i am a bit of an optimist.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Promoting interoperability does not mean accepting bad actors. We can build something without bad actors. They can use ActivityPub and use it with people who are fine with Facebook, people don't need to accept it though.

Just like we can encourage the usage of HTTP and the Web without hosting and giving place to all websites on another website. For example, I have a personal website and encourage people to do so. That doesn't mean I need to link and interact with all websites that exist.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Meta are already reaching out to fediverse devs and inviting them to secret NDA covered meetings.

load more comments (9 replies)