▲ 671 ▼ ‘Banana Republic’: Social Media Reacts to Trump Firing Statistics Chief After Bleak Jobs Report (www.mediaite.com) submitted 1 year ago by Redditsux@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 57 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (3 children) I kind of excused some of that due to societal PTSD from 9/11 but in retrospect around half of Americans just fucking suck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 year ago (1 child) One could see how bloodthirsty they were as soon as they saw the opportunity to have extrajudicial punishment and the opportunity to kill a lot of brown people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago i was in college in utah. people at there were openly talking in the lunchroom about how excited they were to kill muslims. every time i'd challenge that narrative dozens of people would shout it down. it was disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) societal PTSD from 9/11 I feel 9/11 was less of a "we were struck by the ravages of war" and more of a "how dare they shoot back" event. If it was like the bombing of London by the Nazis, that makes most people reluctant to go to war instead of making war popular. I mean, who looks at 9/11 and says "we want more of this"? Apparently most Americans? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xyzzy@lemmy.today 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 9 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) 1/4 to 1/3 at most. Remember most eligible voters don't vote. EDIT: it's also worth noting that many can't vote. Like voting day not being a public holiday and they cant get off work, mail-in not being available, public transport not being free on voting day, or simply being purged from voting rolls. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] iglou@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not voting when the stakes are this high is as shitty as voting for Trump. Plus approval statistics don't care if you voted or not. If anything, more than half of Americans suck at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) It's also worth noting that many americans are prevented from voting. Cannot get time off work, polling station too far, mail in not available, purged from voter roll. It's still crazy to me that voting day is not a public holiday in the US and that all public transport is not free on that day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iglou@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago* In France voting day is always a Sunday to prevent issues like this. It seems very anti-democratic to not make sure that almost all the voting population can find the time for it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago His poll numbers are still in the 40s permalink fedilink source parent [–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Remember most eligible voters don’t vote. Voter turnout in the 2024 election was 63.7%. That's still a lot of folks who didn't vote, but it's not "most." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) But of the total adult population, only a minority votes. 63.7% is only of the registered voters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago I got the number from this page: https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results,_2024:_Analysis_of_voter_turnout_in_the_2024_general_election which lists it as "eligible voters," which is in turn based on data from here: https://election.lab.ufl.edu/2024-general-election-turnout/ which discusses the methodology: The denominator for these VEP turnout rates is constructed by estimating the voting-age population or VAP (everyone age 18 and older residing in the United States). Ineligible populations are subtracted from the VAP consisting of non-citizens and felons (depending on state disenfranchisement laws). Eligible overseas voters are added to the national VEP estimates only as no reliable method exists to apportion these eligible voters to states. So no, it's not just registered voters. It's their best estimate of how many people are old enough and not disqualified. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 year ago (1 child) One could see how bloodthirsty they were as soon as they saw the opportunity to have extrajudicial punishment and the opportunity to kill a lot of brown people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago i was in college in utah. people at there were openly talking in the lunchroom about how excited they were to kill muslims. every time i'd challenge that narrative dozens of people would shout it down. it was disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago i was in college in utah. people at there were openly talking in the lunchroom about how excited they were to kill muslims. every time i'd challenge that narrative dozens of people would shout it down. it was disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) societal PTSD from 9/11 I feel 9/11 was less of a "we were struck by the ravages of war" and more of a "how dare they shoot back" event. If it was like the bombing of London by the Nazis, that makes most people reluctant to go to war instead of making war popular. I mean, who looks at 9/11 and says "we want more of this"? Apparently most Americans? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] xyzzy@lemmy.today 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 9 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] xyzzy@lemmy.today 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 9 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) 1/4 to 1/3 at most. Remember most eligible voters don't vote. EDIT: it's also worth noting that many can't vote. Like voting day not being a public holiday and they cant get off work, mail-in not being available, public transport not being free on voting day, or simply being purged from voting rolls. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] iglou@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not voting when the stakes are this high is as shitty as voting for Trump. Plus approval statistics don't care if you voted or not. If anything, more than half of Americans suck at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) It's also worth noting that many americans are prevented from voting. Cannot get time off work, polling station too far, mail in not available, purged from voter roll. It's still crazy to me that voting day is not a public holiday in the US and that all public transport is not free on that day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iglou@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago* In France voting day is always a Sunday to prevent issues like this. It seems very anti-democratic to not make sure that almost all the voting population can find the time for it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago His poll numbers are still in the 40s permalink fedilink source parent [–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Remember most eligible voters don’t vote. Voter turnout in the 2024 election was 63.7%. That's still a lot of folks who didn't vote, but it's not "most." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) But of the total adult population, only a minority votes. 63.7% is only of the registered voters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago I got the number from this page: https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results,_2024:_Analysis_of_voter_turnout_in_the_2024_general_election which lists it as "eligible voters," which is in turn based on data from here: https://election.lab.ufl.edu/2024-general-election-turnout/ which discusses the methodology: The denominator for these VEP turnout rates is constructed by estimating the voting-age population or VAP (everyone age 18 and older residing in the United States). Ineligible populations are subtracted from the VAP consisting of non-citizens and felons (depending on state disenfranchisement laws). Eligible overseas voters are added to the national VEP estimates only as no reliable method exists to apportion these eligible voters to states. So no, it's not just registered voters. It's their best estimate of how many people are old enough and not disqualified. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iglou@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not voting when the stakes are this high is as shitty as voting for Trump. Plus approval statistics don't care if you voted or not. If anything, more than half of Americans suck at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) It's also worth noting that many americans are prevented from voting. Cannot get time off work, polling station too far, mail in not available, purged from voter roll. It's still crazy to me that voting day is not a public holiday in the US and that all public transport is not free on that day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iglou@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago* In France voting day is always a Sunday to prevent issues like this. It seems very anti-democratic to not make sure that almost all the voting population can find the time for it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) It's also worth noting that many americans are prevented from voting. Cannot get time off work, polling station too far, mail in not available, purged from voter roll. It's still crazy to me that voting day is not a public holiday in the US and that all public transport is not free on that day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iglou@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago* In France voting day is always a Sunday to prevent issues like this. It seems very anti-democratic to not make sure that almost all the voting population can find the time for it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iglou@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago* In France voting day is always a Sunday to prevent issues like this. It seems very anti-democratic to not make sure that almost all the voting population can find the time for it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago His poll numbers are still in the 40s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Remember most eligible voters don’t vote. Voter turnout in the 2024 election was 63.7%. That's still a lot of folks who didn't vote, but it's not "most." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) But of the total adult population, only a minority votes. 63.7% is only of the registered voters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago I got the number from this page: https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results,_2024:_Analysis_of_voter_turnout_in_the_2024_general_election which lists it as "eligible voters," which is in turn based on data from here: https://election.lab.ufl.edu/2024-general-election-turnout/ which discusses the methodology: The denominator for these VEP turnout rates is constructed by estimating the voting-age population or VAP (everyone age 18 and older residing in the United States). Ineligible populations are subtracted from the VAP consisting of non-citizens and felons (depending on state disenfranchisement laws). Eligible overseas voters are added to the national VEP estimates only as no reliable method exists to apportion these eligible voters to states. So no, it's not just registered voters. It's their best estimate of how many people are old enough and not disqualified. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) But of the total adult population, only a minority votes. 63.7% is only of the registered voters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago I got the number from this page: https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results,_2024:_Analysis_of_voter_turnout_in_the_2024_general_election which lists it as "eligible voters," which is in turn based on data from here: https://election.lab.ufl.edu/2024-general-election-turnout/ which discusses the methodology: The denominator for these VEP turnout rates is constructed by estimating the voting-age population or VAP (everyone age 18 and older residing in the United States). Ineligible populations are subtracted from the VAP consisting of non-citizens and felons (depending on state disenfranchisement laws). Eligible overseas voters are added to the national VEP estimates only as no reliable method exists to apportion these eligible voters to states. So no, it's not just registered voters. It's their best estimate of how many people are old enough and not disqualified. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago I got the number from this page: https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results,_2024:_Analysis_of_voter_turnout_in_the_2024_general_election which lists it as "eligible voters," which is in turn based on data from here: https://election.lab.ufl.edu/2024-general-election-turnout/ which discusses the methodology: The denominator for these VEP turnout rates is constructed by estimating the voting-age population or VAP (everyone age 18 and older residing in the United States). Ineligible populations are subtracted from the VAP consisting of non-citizens and felons (depending on state disenfranchisement laws). Eligible overseas voters are added to the national VEP estimates only as no reliable method exists to apportion these eligible voters to states. So no, it's not just registered voters. It's their best estimate of how many people are old enough and not disqualified. permalink fedilink source parent