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Kamala Harris has said that she currently has no desire to re-enter “the system” of American politics because it is “broken”.

On Thursday night the Democratic party’s defeated presidential nominee, who replaced Joe Biden late in the 2024 campaign after he dropped his re-election bid, gave her first interview since losing the election to Donald Trump, talking to Stephen Colbert on The Late Show.

After she announced she will not run for the governorship of California just a day earlier, Harris told the TV show that it was about something more “basic” than whether she wanted to run for something else instead – with the subtext being whether she will attempt a White House run again in 2028.

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago

Good point. Let's do nothing.

[-] [email protected] 41 points 6 days ago

Kamala dropping out is a big step.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago

Agreed, that way the Ds can't run her again. Because they absolutely would.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago

It seems Democrats are finally coming to terms with the fact that they need to appeal to people if they want to win their votes.

Or more accurately, make people believe like they care. Because they are still working against Mamdani and other progressives in full force.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

Not gonna lie, you had me on the first part. I was going to ask for a source based on exactly what you mentioned in the second. They only want to give the illusion of listening to the working class, so they can maintain the status quo.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 6 days ago

It seems Democrats are finally coming to terms with the fact that they need to appeal to people if they want to win their votes.

They did over 6 months ago when they stopped electing neoliberals for DNC chair, and elected the head of Minnesota's Working Families Party to DNC chair...

Because they are still working against Mamdani and other progressives in full force.

A new DNC chair who is excited about Mamdani, and wants to take his strategy because that's what Dem voters want:

Well, first, it was a brilliant campaign. And there's a lot of lessons.

One is, he campaigned for something. And this is a critical piece. We can't just be in a perpetual state of resisting Donald Trump. Of course, we have to resist Donald Trump. There's no doubt about it for all the reasons we just talked about. But we also have to give people a sense of what we're for, what the Democratic Party is fighting for, and what we would do if they put us back in power.

And that's really critical. And I think that's one of the lessons from Mamdani's campaign, is that he focused on affordability. He focused on a message that was resonant with voters, and he campaigned for something, not against other people or against other things. He campaigned on a vision of how he was going to make New York City a better place to live.

I think that's one of the lessons. The other lessons, of course, is the tactics he used to get his message out, both a very aggressive in-person campaigning, meeting voters where they're at, and then also in those digital spaces, using very creative messaging to cut through the noise and to get to voters in an inexpensive but authentic way.

There's a lot to learn from that campaign, and I'm excited to learn more.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/dnc-chair-on-the-path-to-winning-back-voters-and-lessons-democrats-can-learn-from-mamdani

[-] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)
[-] [email protected] -1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

So...

Two days after 10/7 he said a slogan was problematic because it could be interpreted as a call for genocide...

And then on Thanksgiving he thanked Biden for working on expanding aid to Gaza and facilitating release of prisoners? (Which reads like a bit of a jab towards Biden honestly)

I dont understand the single word you put with that

Did you mean "pass" as he "passes" your standards?

Or you think those two tweets from 2 years ago mean you won't support the Dem party?

Because if so, Im really curious who you support. For pretty much any position anywhere.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Weird how he attacked Democratic Socialists of America while doing that.

Mamdani is a member of DSA by the way.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Attacked?

If he attacked anything it was the phrase. But very few social media disagreements count as "attacks".

But he didn't attack "DSA twin cities"

https://twincitiesdsa.org/steering-committee/

An organization so professional they don't even disclose their leaderships last names btw.

And definitely did not attack the national DSA.

But like, you think him disagreeing with the phrasing of one tweet made by one member of a city chapter of a nationwide organization is an "attack" on the entire national organization?

You...

You insist any member of the party never questions the party?

Not just the party, they can't question any other member?

If anyone disagrees, are you going to label them a "suppressive person" for life?

Cuz uh...

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Yes he called DSA extremists.

I recall you being a lot more progressive. Not sure what happened to you.

[-] [email protected] -2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yes he called DSA extremists.

He did not, he said it was a phrase used by extremists...

Here's a hypothetical:

Let's say I was born in 1988, and my ancestors were Swedish, something that is very important to my family.

So I make an account named "NorsePride88"....

I would absolutely appreciate someone pulling me aside and saying:

Some extremists use those phrasing to support shit I hope you don't support.

I would not get defensive and claim I was "attacked", I would thank someone for informing me that while I thought I was using as a benign phrase, a lot of people were going to assume I was intentionally using Nazi dog whistles.

So obviously, the correct response would be not using that account/phrase anymore, because of connotations I wasn't aware of when I typed those words.

I'm trying to help, this really just seems like miscommunication is the only issue here.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

"The phrase is used by extremists."

DSA used the phrase knowing very well what it means and knowing what they support. The DNC chair is concern trolling.

Imagine you make an account called "FreePalestine99". Would you hope someone pulled you aside and said "Actually free Palestine is used by extremists".

[-] [email protected] -4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

DSA used the phrase knowing very well what it means and knowing what they support

Bruh...

You keep saying DSA, when it's a very very small chapter for the "Twin cities" which is a single metro area.

I don't know if I'm doing a poor job of explaining the difference between the two or what.

But you are taking:

Phrase used by extremists

And insisting it means:

Only extremists ever say this

I'm sorry I can't help you with this, I legitimately thought that last reply had a chance tho.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

I don't think you even know what the DSA is. They pulled AOC's endorsement because she kept voting to send weapons to Israel. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/11/us/politics/aoc-dsa-endorsement.html

[-] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

Notably absent from the DNC chair's comments are two big things Mamdani didn't do, which centrist Democrats are doing in spades. Namely, throwing both Palestinians and trans folks under the bus. Mamdani showed that you don't win power by betraying vulnerable minority groups. The DNC has to still learn that lesson.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

He's been chair for the ouster of David Hogg and the shameful behavior of the party he chairs toward Mamdani.

He's not the savior you're touting him as.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

He's not a savior because nobody is.

He is what we asked them to do. Put the chair of the working families party into leadership. Someone known for progressive, popular policies. The Dems didn't go for the corporate shill.

Excoriate them for their stance on Gaza as you like, they deserve it. But you can't say they are ignoring us completely.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago

Until the party changes, the party hasn't changed.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago

As if there is a clear bright line and any progress before crossing that line is meaningless.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

Oh cool. We're gonna talk about how great incrementalism is.

For people who like the status quo. When the party quits ratfucking progressives, I'll entertain the notion that it's not complete dogshit all the time on purpose.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago
[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I know. The party isn't going to stop ratfucking progressives because the party isn't going to change.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

Almost like they barely try so they can benefit from Trumps tax breaks.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago
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[-] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

I like when she was told of voting discrepancies but chose to ignore it and go home instead

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

As much as I could care less for her, I do get it. It's gotta be pretty hard knowing how much you're hated by a lot of people, and there's nothing you can do about it.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

It’s gotta be pretty hard knowing how much you’re hated by a lot of people, and there’s nothing you can do about it.

Oh, there was plenty she could have done about it. She chose to keep supporting the bidenyahu genocide.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

As much as I could care less for her

I could care so so much more about Kamala...

But I don't see any reason to.

hated by a lot of people, and there’s nothing you can do about it.

She could absolutely do something about it.

She could retire and drop out of the public eye. That's it, same thing Hillary could have done a decade ago.

If they every stopped writing books, giving interviews, going on TV, and all the other bullshit; the vast majority of Americans would just forget about them in a year or two.

They just can't do that, they can't stay out of the public eye.

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