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[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Seems more like Huxley than Orwell.

They get you with inconvenience instead of brute force.

[-] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

stop talking about novels like they're historical studies or facts

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago

How dare people use novels used to express political thoughts when political topics come up.

[-] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago
[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago

As we all know, a cultural understanding of works of literature that influenced its readers is exactly like one weirdo on twitter being weird about a movie. Brilliant.

[-] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

#TrumpWinning looking like the next #Orwell novel and the good guys lost. My god.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Getting too close to comfort for you?

[-] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

no, it's a novel, it's a work of fiction, not a piece of theory or history that you can quote, the ending and the world is entirely built by the writer, there's no study it's literally arguments made up by the writer based on no sources or research, anyone can write a dystopian story, I could write a dystopian story and quote it right now, it's not argument, it's stupid.

You know, in my novel of people who quote novels ending up as nazis, you do resemble it a lot.

/\ as valid as using a novel like 1984 or animal farm or whatever else as an argument

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

1984 and Brave New World are allegories based on real life social observations and events. So, yes, they are based on history. They are famous for a reason. It is just that you find it too close to comfort.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

They're famous because the US regime uses them to indoctrinate children in their flag pledging factories

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I don't think I heard Americans pledge in the name of Huxley and Orwell.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

are you being deliberately stupid as a joke right now?

[-] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago

my 3 sentence novel is also based on observing you.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

Yes, anyone right of you is a Nazi.

How original. Pulitzer prize winning.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago

Looks like you found it too close for comfort

[-] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

Anyone who criticizes your usage of novels as meaning anything got hit close home

[-] Tattorack@lemmy.world -5 points 10 months ago

It's not history, but it's certainly theory. The study it's based on is through observations of reality. When comparing something to one of these books, we're testing their observations by comparing them to reality. Incidentally, it gets brought up a lot when an event, occurrence, or vector in society begins to resemble these books too closely.

Your hyperbole of people quoting books all being nazis, on the other hand, is very easily disproven.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago

"this is giving boss baby vibes" except actually trying to make a point out of it

Your hyperbole of people quoting books all being nazis

Only the dumbest fucking people pull this shit and you are as fucking stupid as can be measured

[-] Tattorack@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Considering what you measure with, that doesn't have much meaning.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago

Explain to me how you think I'm measuring, fuckwit. You have a judgement on a thing, you should be able to articulate what that thing is, right?

[-] Tattorack@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Badly; as someone who is culturally illiterate, lacks the skills of observation to make any determination (whether it be about myself or the subject of the world around us), is incapable of actually making any arguments, and so uses "colourful language" in a juvenile attempt to cover up their shortcomings.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The question I asked you was to explain the method by which I was making a judgement, which you presumed to know.

Can you answer it, stupid? Or are we going to get another paragraph about how you being snide is supposed to obscure the fact that you can't maintain a coherent thought throughout one of your posts?

Mister five subordinate clauses per sentence.

[-] Tattorack@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

Well, I rest my case. You are a... pointless individual. I do hope you have better luck in real life than on the internet.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago

No, you're a pointless individual because you literally have no point in this argument. I asked you for what your point was and you've done nothing but evade and insult. You're a vapid fucking idiot. See? I can actually stake a position.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

The fact that they're this mad says yes.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Reminds me of the same reaction, but inverse for the right, when Squid Game first came out. The right keeps insisting that the show is about socialism, even though the creator explicitly mentioned it's about capitalism.

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