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Weekly thread - how is everyone doing with their communities?
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To discuss how to grow and manage communities / magazines on Lemmy, Mbin, Piefed and Sublinks
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First lemm.ee goes down and I migrate to dubvee including exporting the post archive
Now dubvee.org is going down and I have to repeat the process.
Gotta say, it really zaps my enthusiasm for Lemmy with these frequent instance closures.
Maybe the instance model isn't the right one for long term federated communities.
Sorry to hear about dubvee.org shutting down.
Another harsh reminder that admin burnout is real, and that unfortunately choosing an instance with a team of multiple admins willing to keep going is probably very important as community builders.
Yeah, well, maybe if I felt like I wasn't the only one around here taking a stand against extremism, violent rhetoric, and toxic behavior, things could have played out differently and I could have pushed on. You can't place the blame on just having a single admin - that may be one factor, but becoming completely demoralized from the lack of support from most other admins/instances was the real cause. This is a wide-ranging problem, and a single small instance (let alone a single admin) cannot solve it alone.
Sorry not sorry - For the next 2 weeks I'm in "captain going down with his ship" mode and I'm not holding back on what I think about this place, what it's become, and where it's heading. Two years ago, we had the tools, motive, and opportunity to make something truly better here, and we failed.
You're not going to find a sympathetic ear from the mods of this community (believe me I've tried, oh have I tried) but I understand where you're coming from and agree. The Lemmy network in general is comprised of a lot of people who are here (I'm sorry to say) because they are too poorly socialized even for reddit, and there are too few mods/admins in the overall network are who know what it means to be the adult in the room. The result is that most places with authentic activity are too toxic for "normies" and the places willing to enforce something as simple as good manners are quieter.
I still believe a critical mass of more ah, well-adjusted people can improve the culture, but that day gets further and further away as long as the existing culture remains in the state it is in.
You reported a post I made about creating [email protected] as "steering drama". And I will not even link the [email protected] post about your instance, people who are interested should be able to find it quickly.
Yep, yep, and yep to all of that, and some of it I've said for over a year and was dismissed with "just give it time".
I've always referred to that as the "elephant in the ~~room~~ fediverse". But yeah, I fully agree that's definitely a major contributing factor to the current environment. I even made a joke post about it the other day: https://dubvee.org/post/3789665
Here's the gist of the post to save you a click
Title: "We are not the same"Like I said in my shutdown/meta post, I want the concept of the fediverse to succeed. I really do. But exactly as you just said (and others have said and I have said), the more well-adjusted people need to arrive in a critical mass, and I don't feel there's an environment here to welcome them let alone attract them or entice them to stick around. Maybe that will change. I hope it does, but I'm not optimistic enough to stick around and find out.
I do feel we started out on the right foot back in mid 2023, but as we've grown, we've just turned into a refuge for people who have proven too toxic to remain anywhere else.
At the end of the day, aside from the people like you, ValueSubtracted, and other friendly ~~faces~~ names I've come to enjoy seeing around these last couple years, I'm going to miss the idea of this place far more than the place itself.