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my 2 cents: he's right that bernie sanders doesnt correctly address race issues, but it's because bernie is a soc dem who (whether willingly or mistakenly it doesnt really matter) misunderstands and misrepresents class struggle, and that to actually combat capitalism ignoring/downplaying the racial aspect of classes in capitalism is to totally misrepresent reality and thus have no chance of actually achieving real meaningful progress towards socialism.
even though he does mention that this vid was specifically directed toward electoralists, he still took a shot at revolutionary socialists anyways so alongside him totally ignoring bernie sanders other glaring issues (laptog for imperialism etc.) which arise from the same place as his lack of attention to black issues, i think this was among FD Signifier's bad videos
I think a lot of what he had to say was more relevant toward how one should address the black electorate. Whether it's for Bernie, Zohranz or a revolutionary movement, if you want the support of these people, the white left needs to get it's shit together. I think electoral campaigns are good "practice" for doing so.
Also, I think you'll enjoy Signifier going head to head with someone to his left here: https://youtu.be/SPOYP8LnwOU
(@[email protected] you might like the linked video as well)
yes something that (i hope) is implicit in my comment is that these older black voters that are the majority of the black electorate are important in any revolution because they have the most first hand experience of white workers betraying black workers which is something any hopeful revolutionary in the west/the US especially must deal with in its entirety. slight pushback/clarification, i believe white revolutionaries need to learn how to identify which populations are revolutionary and where the most likely betrayals will occur to both try and mitigate those betrayals (i.e. convince as many white workers as possible not to betray for soc dem benefits) and also actually help organize the most populations with the most revolutionary potential (i.e. gain the trust of black workers).
hahaha i bet i would, deculturation is a part of the "decolonial ML" circle of people i used to follow on twitter, thanks for the link comrade!
Well I appreciate the conversation you and Mizu offered in the thread here, even if I didn't have a whole lot to contribute myself! Interested to hear your thoughts if you get around to watching it, I respect FD for engaging
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy: