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Use The New Means And The Old
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this post was submitted on 09 Jul 2025
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Nobody is talking about using US based generative AI companies tied to fascist organizations. There are plenty of open source models and companies from China that are readily available. This technology is absolutely a tool for us, and ignoring it simply give advantage to the fascists.
@yogthos Stable Diffusion is open source, too. And it doesn't matter where you got it from when it comes to the fash aesthetic, which this only serves to normalize and to make left-wing pseudo-content that is significantly easier to muddy and appropriate.
And...people don't want it. The only people for whom it would be effective agitprop are the backward group.
What exactly are you trying to say here? That if someone likes anything an AI generated, they are automatically part of a backwards ideology?
'the backward group' is pretty uncomfortable phrasing, if I'm being honest.
@amemorablename @MasterBlaster Not my words. Read Mao.
My bad brother. Should have been more charitable before hitting reply.
This isn't Church, we aren't here to worship specific political figures of the past. You need to explain what your thoughts mean and in the current, modern context that we're in. You don't get to excuse yourself from accountability by vaguely pointing at a famous communist who has written tons of things.
@amemorablename I would've thought people would be familiar with the terminology, given this is an ML group, and Mao uses this terminology with some frequency.
marxists.org/history/erol/ncm-…
This still doesn't explain what "the backward group" has to do with generative AI, which didn't even exist in Mao's time. Hell, he says in the passage you linked:
(bold emphasis mine)
So he was specifically in favor of winning over the "backward elements", which contradicts with your implication that AI as agitprop is "unwanted by people" and somehow bad as propaganda because it would only "be effective agitprop [for] the backward group."