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cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/20996269

I flew out of Denver on Monday and was told I didn’t have to take off my shoes.

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I often hear how the TSA was/is security theatre. Was this ever proven with any kind of stats? Did they ever stop any big incidents from occurring?

I remember going through various American airport security in the 2000's and thought it was intimidating (i was a kid). But i figured it would at the very least deter people who might attempt some kind of crime of opportunity? Idk.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

They find a lot of guns (about 5,000/yr), but it is usually from people that forget they can't take guns on a plane.

What they don't catch is unknown, but the tests show probably a lot more

https://onemileatatime.com/tsa-fails-tests-95-percent/

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Interesting. I feel like surely there must be a way to...make things genuinely helpful lol. I would rather have effective security than shitty security. Idk if I would want nothing though? Weird. Thanks for sharing!

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I truly do not know if there is a good solution, but I do know the TSA ain't it. People are pretty ingenious, and if someone really wants to get something through security, they'll likely find a way. Hell, I saw a video of someone that built a functioning weapon entirely from items purchased after the security check. Luckily he was doing it as an example, but still.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I feel like we already have the solution. The reason hijacking a plane is attractive for a terrorist is because you essentially have a precision missile. There's little security for buses or trains because you can't do the same thing. If you make the cockpit basically bulletproof and have strict procedures about entering the cockpit during flight, then it's not nearly as attractive. Those changes were already made after 9/11. Hijacking a plane only allows the hijackers to kill the people on board, which isn't as useful. Literally eliminate TSA and I think we're good.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Oh, don't get me wrong. Eliminating the TSA is a net positive. Good to know about the increased in flight security, and that makes sense.

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