All from in this thread in [email protected] about a chant at a British music festival where an artist said "death, death to the IDF".
After other users were quoting that chant in the comments and had comments removed and banned, the hero of our story, @[email protected] (appearing as "acargitz") pointed out that under international law, fighting an occupying force is legitimate. But apparently not under world news rules, as their removed comments and the many explanations from mods make clear in the thread.
Equally against the rules is the call for the eradication of an organisation or business, even without an explicit call to violence against individual members of the business.
In the same thread: user @[email protected] had comments removed for being anti-American "(again)", though I couldn't see the first time. It's not even clear to me how the removed comments were anti-American.
Bonus points for the "DC Comics" removal reason. Though this seems to be incompetence, rather than malice.
What about the violence it is okay to advocate though? That's okay, right?
Why is that? Maybe you could outline that a little more clearly, because the implicit rule is clashing with the explicit rule here, and some clarification would I'm sure cut down on the need for mod work.
It's really simple, don't advocate for violence.
For example, I just removed a comment from a Trump thread:
"Will no one rid us of this turbulent President?"
Seems innocuous, right? Nope, it's a call for assassination.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_no_one_rid_me_of_this_turbulent_priest%3F
Not allowed. It's an EDUCATED call for assassination, but still a call for assassination.
Other comments below it were more direct and also removed.
Right because hes one of the people who it's not okay to call for violence against. So no degree of structure that would harm him is acceptable to endorse.
Whereas for certain other people, suggesting they shouldn't be killed is a de facto call for violence against some of thwse protected groups.
Im just suggesting if you clarified who is on which list, people would be a lot better at self censoring and make less work for you. You can't blame people for failing to obey such complex rules when theyre not laid out clearly.
For real tho, Lemmy needs to stop with the murder talk. I am seeing a lot of it. Murder execs. Murder presidents, etc. I'm all for "fuck tha Man!" but let's not glorify or advocate for murder. It's pretty sickening. It's not a good thing for Lemmy to have a bunch of extremists talking about murdering people (or using code-words for it).
It's really shitty that there are entire classes of people who choose violence to enforce their injustice, which itself is violence.
Watching people die slow on the streets like that is horrible. Even when I'm not one of them, having to watch people deteriorate and die out here is violence against me. Knowing that I'm never more than a couple consecutive bad months from being one of them. Social murder is murder, and it's the worst most vile kind, because you know how many people could how little it would take to save you. I wish we wouldnt do that. I agree. No more murder. Never again, please, if we could. No more letting these extremists run around murdering people-what, genuinely, is the difference between land mines/cluster munitions, and destructive housing policy?
I know this is a choice, but ive watched people die slow of cancer. I've watched bodies gradually degrade and fail. It's nightmare shit. And I'm sick of drowning in environmental contaminants that cause it. I'm sick of people who peacefully work for better being literally blown up by the fbi. I agree. No more murder. We shouldn't let tgese extremists run around murdering people.
Choosing to enfirce violent property arrangements with brute violence rather than sharing like we all learned to do as literal children, choosing to violently suppress speech rather than let people make their own decisions, violent combustive destruction of the world we all have to live in and preventing the ways to fix it by deploying nen with guns. I agree. The violence, the killing, must stop, before we drown in this river of blood we will not stop shedding.
So, we're both mad as hell and agree it should stop. Too much murder. What to do? Asking and dialogue get you shot at and war crimed. Ive tried.