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[-] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You posted a report from 2022

  • concentration camps are a fact
  • forced labor is a fact
  • forced reeducation is a fact
  • laws specifically made against uyghurs are a fact
  • deaths that aren't independently investigated are a fact

I could go on. The connection isn't that outlandish to make. I am not going to discuss semantics and I dont believe either of us will change their mind, so I wont reply again.

Edit: Links fixed.

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/frustration-deepens-two-years-after-un-report-china-abuses-2024-08-31/

https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/08/1153621

https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/08/31/china-unrelenting-crimes-against-humanity-targeting-uyghurs

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/chinas-repression-in-xinjiang-is-entering-an-even-darker-phase-the-un-must-act/

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The source for the Reuters article was the report I linked from 2022, lol. The UN link references the same report. The HRW (itself a western state-linked propaganda outlet) also only references the UN report I linked from 2022. The atlantic council report links to the UN report, and to Adrian Zenz, the far-right christian nationalist that believes he was sent by God to punish China, is a member of the propaganda outlet Victims of Communism, has been caught falsifying evidence, and has never been to China.

You just looked up "China Uyghur" or something and grabbed some links without checking them, otherwise you'd know that they all point to the same relatively reputable source, the UN report, and occasionally Adrian Zenz, the fascist propagandist (literally, no exaggeration). You should read the UN report, rather than opinion pieces that don't add anything except reference it, as it's clear you haven't.

Even then, even if you were 100% correct, you'd still be comparing human rights abuses to industrialized murder of millions of people. This is holocaust trivialization, and it is outlandish. You'd think Germans would try to be a bit more careful about that, but considering Germany's dedication to supporting Israel's genocidal mass murder of Palestinians on live TV, maybe that isn't so surprising.

Edit: checked the UN link once you fixed the link. Surprise, surprise, all 4 of your articles link the same report I told you to read, and one of them links to Adrian Zenz when it wants to add extra spicy allegations entirely detached from reality.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Sure, I will give you what I said was an exaggeration and edit my original comment.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

That's much better. I still recommend you read the UN report, as well as China's response to it. It's a real situation, but one that western media and state-backed outlets try to distort in order to push a narrative based on exaggeration to outright falsehoods (in the case of Adrian Zenz). The UN report at least tries to stick to the actual facts at hand, even if it is biased, but the media treats Adrian Zenz as just as valid a source for the purposes of misrepresentation.

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