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Iran’s nuclear enrichment ‘will never stop’, nation’s UN ambassador says
(www.theguardian.com)
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By the same logic neither does NATO's article 5.
Not at all. You clearly haven't read what's actually in there.
Clinton didn't think Congress would ratify strong guarantees. Ukraine itself wasn't in a position to ask for much more, because it didn't have the economy to afford to maintain nuclear weapons. The result is an agreement that aggression against Ukraine would be brought up with the UN security council, and that's about it.
In providing military aid, the US has exceeded what was promised.
Article 5 has:
which might also be thoughts and prayers while Trump is in the White House and
which is basically what was offered to Ukraine.
Nope, not at all comparable. The US does not puppet master the UN Security Council. It can bring the matter up, and it has. Russia has veto power on the same council. Nobody expects anything to come of that, but the requirements were met.
NATO requirements are also fully met if the US deems that doing nothing is the necessary action and informs the Security Council.
There is so much more context behind that. The two are not at all comparable.
You're completely ignoring what happens in the first paragraph of NATO Article 5. The Security Council only comes into play if they get off their ass. The Security Council rarely gets off its ass, because too many countries that hate each other have veto power. NATO will continue operations for the defense of its members regardless.
None of that is true of the Budapest Memorandum. They bring it up with the Security Council, and that's it.
Are you going to keep digging this hole?