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[-] [email protected] 128 points 1 day ago

So do I understand correctly that on this globe you can only be against genocide of the Palestinians if you live in an authoritarian country like China, Iran, Russia, etc.?

Obviously in those countries you can't be against their own genocides like the Uhigers, Ukrainians, etc. But somehow when it comes to Israel the rest of the world seems to not dare being against genocide?

Is is because the US is so powerful that they fear reprecusions? Or why is that?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

I have the feeling Israel is a US puppet state that is being used to take control over the Middle East. (And destroy Islam while they are at it)

[-] [email protected] -1 points 7 hours ago

None of the 2 mentioned are genocided.
And the fact you're commenting about China, Iran, Russia, etc. neing authoritarian while there's full on censorship in the west about this post is typical.

You're part of the deluded, pretentious 10% of the world calling themselves 'the international community' with 'their western values'.
Already hated for centuries of imperialism and now this total support for genocidal maniacs.
Anyone in touch with people outside of the western online community knows they will not forget this either.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

Agreed. Plus those are rookie numbers. Mao killed at least 40 million people on accident. Imagine what he could do if he put effort in.

[-] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago

You are overlooking Ireland. They support the Palestinians.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 8 hours ago

That's because they are very familiar with having a neighbor with a mindset like Israel. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles

[-] [email protected] 66 points 1 day ago

It's because we are in the worst timeline. Evil has won in this para-dimension.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

Fair.

I'm hopeful that it can't get exponentially worse forever.

[-] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago

It can. We're living in what our children will call the "good old days" right now.

Survival alone will be brutal next decade. Millions upon millions of climate/war refugees vs the thousands of today.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

The bright-side is that we are still mortal creatures. Our individual suffering gets to thankfully end when we die. Death is the release from this hell. I take comfort in the fact that someday soon I will be gone from this nightmare.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We hope. No one knows. Enjoy this hell. What dreams may come, all that.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

I think you'll find Western countries don't need much of an excuse to support colonial genocide.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My biggest issue is Americans. Half of Americans support genocide, the other half want to moralize and lead the charge against it, which just comes off as hypocrisy considering i didn’t even get so much as an apology for all the bombings and invasions my country took by Americans. Now Americans are moralizing to my brown indigenous ass about colonialism and genocide and acting like once again Americans should lead this movement, which only cheapens it. Americans need to get in the back of the line and shut the fuck up. Support but leave your moralizing at home, and “I wasn't personally the one who bombed you” is not an excuse for Israelis so it’s not one for Americans either. You guys fucked half the world and now you wanna move on and leave it in the past so you don’t have to take collective responsibility

Edit: getting downvoted by Americans who don’t like non whites calling them out for their bullshit. Biggest terrorist nation on earth

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

I mean, I def get what you’re saying. I do. But do you really have anti-genocide Americans saying something about “Americans should lead this movement?” Because that’s an insane take I can’t imagine you’ve really run into in the wild.

The US is the worst perpetrator of colonialist violence, no doubt.

“I wasn’t personally the one who bombed you” is not an excuse for Israelis so it’s not one for Americans either. You guys fucked half the world and now you want to move on and leave it in the past so you don’t have to take collective responsibility.

What if I flipped this and said this is the exact rationale Israel is using against the population of Palestine? The population who’s been too young to have anything to do with anything Hamas has done, but they’re getting punished for it?

My point isn’t that the US has no blame. I don’t think you can actually find a US leftist who believes that. And if any US leftist is throwing blame all over the world without recognizing the history of the US? I mean, they’re beyond stupid.

My point is…why subdivide us further? The left is being repressed all over the world while fascism takes root once again. And your biggest gripe is…people who were born into a place? We should not be finding ways to take the high road over each other. Because there is a global rise of fascism while an active genocide takes place. And you’re here—if I can borrow a phrase—moralizing. To a T. You are claiming your biggest problem is with other people who agree with you, but who aren’t as pure of heart as you? You’re the real anti genocide crusader because ____?

Why. Why are we constantly using our morals and ideologies as cudgels against other people who would agree with us if we weren’t actively trying to find differences between us? We, the global working class should not be doing the work of the ruling class. And finding reasons to hate and belittle other working class people for generalized reasons beyond their control is very much doing the work for them.

So please stop. We have the most powerful tool of communication and global community at our fingertips and we’re using it to further divisions among the working class. When we could so easily harness it and mobilize a general strike that would cripple the ruling class in a matter of days. But this kind of moralizing you’re doing that is so common online (because corporations made social media and gave us an avenue to wear our ideas like patches, crippling three entire generations because we can’t see past that way of thinking) is the only thing stopping us.

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