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My biggest issue is Americans. Half of Americans support genocide, the other half want to moralize and lead the charge against it, which just comes off as hypocrisy considering i didn’t even get so much as an apology for all the bombings and invasions my country took by Americans. Now Americans are moralizing to my brown indigenous ass about colonialism and genocide and acting like once again Americans should lead this movement, which only cheapens it. Americans need to get in the back of the line and shut the fuck up. Support but leave your moralizing at home, and “I wasn't personally the one who bombed you” is not an excuse for Israelis so it’s not one for Americans either. You guys fucked half the world and now you wanna move on and leave it in the past so you don’t have to take collective responsibility
Edit: getting downvoted by Americans who don’t like non whites calling them out for their bullshit. Biggest terrorist nation on earth
I mean, I def get what you’re saying. I do. But do you really have anti-genocide Americans saying something about “Americans should lead this movement?” Because that’s an insane take I can’t imagine you’ve really run into in the wild.
The US is the worst perpetrator of colonialist violence, no doubt.
What if I flipped this and said this is the exact rationale Israel is using against the population of Palestine? The population who’s been too young to have anything to do with anything Hamas has done, but they’re getting punished for it?
My point isn’t that the US has no blame. I don’t think you can actually find a US leftist who believes that. And if any US leftist is throwing blame all over the world without recognizing the history of the US? I mean, they’re beyond stupid.
My point is…why subdivide us further? The left is being repressed all over the world while fascism takes root once again. And your biggest gripe is…people who were born into a place? We should not be finding ways to take the high road over each other. Because there is a global rise of fascism while an active genocide takes place. And you’re here—if I can borrow a phrase—moralizing. To a T. You are claiming your biggest problem is with other people who agree with you, but who aren’t as pure of heart as you? You’re the real anti genocide crusader because ____?
Why. Why are we constantly using our morals and ideologies as cudgels against other people who would agree with us if we weren’t actively trying to find differences between us? We, the global working class should not be doing the work of the ruling class. And finding reasons to hate and belittle other working class people for generalized reasons beyond their control is very much doing the work for them.
So please stop. We have the most powerful tool of communication and global community at our fingertips and we’re using it to further divisions among the working class. When we could so easily harness it and mobilize a general strike that would cripple the ruling class in a matter of days. But this kind of moralizing you’re doing that is so common online (because corporations made social media and gave us an avenue to wear our ideas like patches, crippling three entire generations because we can’t see past that way of thinking) is the only thing stopping us.
The left and the American left is a whole different animal. The European and Canadian left is reasonable. The American left this past election went insane and has no business telling anyone what to do. I have never had racism and bigotry thrown at me by the left until this past year. The American left has become the world police and instead of fixing the dumpster fire in their country instead want to fix everyone else
Are you conflating the Democratic Party with the “American left?” That would be exactly where your problem lies.
A lot of the fascist-lite party describe themselves that way.
But you are right they aren't.
Real left in the US accounts for an insignificant percentage.
Sorry for that handfull of people but in general I'm with the other guy and hope that whole country goes to hell ASAP.
That would be great for the world.
Nope, it’s the anti democrat left in the US that has become ugly, toxic and racist just like the right. Opposite side of the same coin and it’s no surprise, considering you all spawned in the same murderous empire
lol what?
I will say there is a problem worldwide, thanks to the level of discourse on social media, with people having much more shallow understanding and much more “punchy” takes without any shred of nuance (like your take). That’s not an “American left” problem. The death of nuance has eroded the entire level of discourse regardless of ideology. Worldwide. It’s why a take such as yours is even debated and not thrown right away as a trash, shallow, meaningless take.
You can ignore 95% of what I said and refuse to engage on any of those points while continuing to repeat a weak, nuance-free take with zero basis in anything anyone else can agree is happening outside of someone misunderstanding
You complain about the level Of discourse on social media. I blame the American bombs you guys dropped on my people, how you treated us and continue to treat us like subhuman enemies. How you blame your ills on my people, who were here first by the way. And now after going through all that, I see young Americans moralizing, and preaching to my indigenous ass about privilege and colonialism. Shut the fuck up and fix your country.
You all benefited from your empires crimes, you all share the responsibility if not the blame.
I don’t like to get ugly online, but Americans are the exception, y’all need to shut the fuck up about what other countries are up to and fix your shit
Delusional nonsense
You can’t see how fucked up your shithole of a country is from within, im outside looking at the dumpster fire. All I see is your shithole empire burning, and even then you have to moralize and police the world and look down on everyone, instead of fixing your god damn country. You are at fault for trump and the instability he’s causing all of us
I see how fucked up the US is just fine, I'm talking about your inane assertion that the "anti democrat left" is in any way at fault, or even close to as bad as our conservatives. The US has no leftist party, actual leftists have no power and no control over anything. You're clearly just another liberal intent on deflecting blame and avoiding responsibility for the failures of your ideology.
I am saying specifically that the anti democrat left is sharing the big fault in this past election. You didn’t just step aside but you helped MAGA win. You played right into trump, Putin and netanyahus hands. They made you all dance. You complained about the white old man but hated the educated black woman even more.
Now that is over You can now blame the democrats all you want but we are all eating shit because you guys decided that democrats were worse than nazis. As a Canadian you think we haven’t had to hold our nose and vote in a less than ideal candidate to oppose fascists? Cause we have. It’s our duty. The young left claims to want change but don’t want to work for it. None of you care about primaries or local elections. You bitch about the democratic candidate that was picked without your input instead of joining the party and voting on candidates and making your voice heard as a member. How many of you voted in the democratic primaries to elect Bernie? Or did you just sit at home and complained he lost? Fix the Democratic Party from within. That or start your own party, go the fuck ahead, but do it instead of waiting for someone else to. Have you volunteered for your progressive candidates? Have you joined the door to door campaigns and fund raisers? Have you voted on your school board elections?
Or do you just want to sit back and complain about the democrats not changing, without attempting to change them yourself?
Like I said, delusional nonsense from a liberal desperate to deflect blame
“Anyone who disagrees with me is a liberal”
Oh Jesus, yes.
Sending Obama to black communities to call impoverished young men misogynistic and sending Bill Clinton up north to lecture angry Palestinian Americans was astonishing in the most tone-deaf and infuriating way.
It absolutely is, for both.
You don’t get to reap the rewards of colonialism and war while dodging all the responsibilities
And 99% of us vote for it every two years, because both ruling parties are warmongers.
But what gets me the most is that half of voters' opinions on war change depending on who's in power. The folks who are so anti-war right now would fully support it if Harris were in office, and that changing of opinions based on political convenience and nothing else just infuriates me. They still defend Obama's bloodied hands even though he was bombing seven different countries while in office. (That we know of)