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[–] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Every rifle used by law enforcement ought to have a silencer. If they're gonna murder someone the absolute rock bottom very least they can do is not cause severe permanent hearing damage to a hundred other people in the vicinity.

It's not like it's a stealth thing. It's not going to do anything to prevent detection and they don't give a shit about that anyway. This isn't a James Bond or John Wick movie so let's not pretend silenced gunshots aren't still unbelievably loud.

A better question is how can other cops bring a rifle into a densely populated area WITHOUT a silencer?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Single shots from rifles do not cause permanent hearing loss.

    A better question is how can other cops bring a rifle into a densely populated area WITHOUT a silencer?

    I dont even know how to respond to this part. Maybe don't have the cops come in with the expectations to use the weapon?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I would prefer the cops not have any guns at all. They would certainly be more polite. If they are going to go do something that would need a gun they need a warrant and then 5 pages of requisition forms filled out in triplicate to request the guns.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Not commenting on the other parts of this discussion but a single shot from a rifle absolutely CAN cause permanent hearing damage. Even some weapons suppressed are still loud enough to damage your hearing over a short amount of time/multiple shoots. Have you ever seen or watched news of cops shooting someone and NOT firing multiple rounds?
    Of all the tactical battle rattle these ICE dorks are wearing to capture people, I think suppressors are the least worrisome; should maybe even be mandatory for law enforcement in urban environments. That's coming from my experience shooting in the Marines and being a hobby shooter since then.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children)

    serious question about guns and silencers, but if it was just a tiny gun, would it not be pretty quiet and work as expected like if someone was in a bathroom and the people in the bar wouldn't hear it?

    The bigger the gun the more noise it'd make though for sure.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    A suppressor on a subsonic .22 caliber gun is about as close to movie/video game quiet as you can expect. There is still variation, but subsonic ammo eliminates the "crack" from the sonic boom (comes from the bullet itself), and the suppressor reduces the muzzle noise a lot. In person I've heard one suppressed subsonic .22, and it was about the level of a good clap. 👏

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    A good answer to your question needs more specifics, but in general, suppressed handguns with home-defense or target ammo are still loud enough to gain attention.

    On the other hand, subsonic ammo will be pretty quiet and reduce the noise drastically, but unless you have the semi-auto mechanics tuned properly, the gun won't cycle the next round in very well. I can't speak to the stopping power of subsonic ammo but again, it probably requires specifics to give an accurate answer.

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