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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It was really obvious to me Linus was full of shit when he pretended to give Linux a try but then defied a scary error message warning him not to continue which he did anyway and it wiped his desktop environment completely.

He then basically implied if you couldn't just randomly copy paste cli commands without understanding them AND ignoring a scary warning message, then Linux just was too sketchy for average users to use. It would be trivial to make that exact argument about windows... Because it's a bullshit meaningless argument

Anyone with even the tiniest experience with a cli, imo, should've known at that point he's full of shit. Fuck their shitty videos.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, it was the worst video about GNU/Linux I've ever seen. The whole idea was stupid from the beginning: let's be ignorant and try to use a new operating system we don't know anything about, spend 5 minutes on research and definitely don't ask anybody for help.

Linus's issue was caused by some new bug in Pop OS, but he ignored the warning message and even typed "DO AS I SAY"! But of course the conclusion had to be that GNU/Linux is not ready yet. I'm pretty sure he could have just downloaded Steam from their website instead.

The most annoying part was the response from the community. Instead of criticizing his ignorance and incompetence, people were praising him for finding a bug 🀦.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm with you completely. I also saw comments defending his idiocy at the CLI. Most people I know who don't know software very well are afraid to try anything without checking somewhere for validation. But the comments were like "it's fair because non-linux users won't expect a command to destroy their os". 🀦to the max.

I can easily find a command that will destroy (or royally fuck up) windows and for added evil, tell you it does something else. But yeah if it's Linux then that would mean it's an os only for experienced sysadmins.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He could actually still log in and use terminal (https://youtu.be/0506yDSgU7M?t=760). So couldn't he have just reinstalled the desktop environment? :D

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Well yes but his point was that an average user would need to figure it out. He demonstrated that his argument was not in good faith though

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do kinda wonder: Pop OS told him that whatever he was doing may remove some essential stuff. Pop OS specifically said "Are you REALLY sure about that?" and didn't let him skip the warning by pressing Y and enter.

A normie, perhaps my mom, would indeed not know what these packages mean but sure enough she would see the warning and perhaps call me to ask what this means. It takes a lot of naivety to ignore the warning.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Naivety? Nah it takes either a complete moron or someone who doesn't care. Since he was making a video which could oppose or uphold a popular opinion, I am guessing he didn't care..

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love this comment so much. "You crossed Linux? Now you've crossed me, blud."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't get what you're referring to

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

More often than not, people who are passionate about something, such as Linux, take personal offense when someone says something incorrect or offensive about said thing. Oh, and blud is just to call someone a poser.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Despite how idiotic this argument sounds, but given the stupidity I have witnessed from people who are not that tech savvy, it leads me to believe that this is quite possible for them to do.

I haven't been following LTT for more than 2 years, but as far as I remember, they were really good with the stuff they did. Got me into the whole PC building and immense knowledge on those parts.

Quite surprised to see this stuff coming out from them. Honestly, I'm disappointed with them for becoming the monster they ought to defeat.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So if your computer said "press Y to possibly brick your shit" it's in any way reasonable to blame the computer if that happens after you press y?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People are dumb. They do so much dumb shit that your computer should be dummy proof enough to not delete the main OS itself with just a command and button press.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

That's not what happened though.

And I submit someone that stupid would toast windows in no time also.