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submitted 20 hours ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

TL;DR: Mozilla is now enforcing data collection as a pre-requisite to access new features in Firefox Labs. This is backed by the Terms of Use that Mozilla introduced a few months ago.

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

Up until recently, Labs did not force anyone to submit data to use it.

With your logic, Firefox can also force people to submit data if they use the browser.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Up until recently, Labs did not force anyone to submit data to use it.

Alright, well, it makes sense that they would finally require it, otherwise there's probably not enough data. Data driven design choices can often be beneficial.

With your logic, Firefox can also force people to submit data if they use the browser.

That doesn't seem familiar to my logic — no. There's a difference between opting into using beta features and using the finished, ready, and released feature in the final product. Those are fundamentally different, philosophically, to me. One is expected not to have telemetry, and one makes sense that you would help out and provide non-identifiable usage data to help make the product better.

🤷‍♂️ Right? That's my take anyway.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

So your logic would say Mozilla should require all Firefox Beta users to submit to mandatory data collection?

The only consistent through line I see with your reasoning is adherence to what Mozilla preaches from on high. And that concerns me, because Mozilla's ethics have continued tumbling downwards since they started collecting data at all in 2017.

this post was submitted on 17 Jun 2025
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