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Twitter/X new ID Verification - First Look (lemmy.world)
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Thanks to Popcrave https://twitter.com/popcrave/status/1691852136236327316?s=46&t=lcH0dp9biwkMEBKsRQeVeQ

Who here is going to put their ID and photo on X/Twitter

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[–] 335 points 3 years ago (10 children)

Twitter aside, if any website or app ever asks this of you, please nope the fuck out.

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  • [–] 115 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    I guess it only occasionally makes sense for government web sites and banks. X might have ambitions to become a bank, so in that sense it might make sense.

    So another piece of advice: if twitter ever asks you if you want to start using it for banking, nope the fuck out.

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  • [–] 60 points 3 years ago* (4 children)

    You Americans should get to this century and start performing digital strong authentications like the rest of us. Sending picture of your ID to anyone is insane :)

    How we do it here in Finland is that there are digital identity providers which use bank/mobile carrier to identify you. They then use MFA when identifying you. Any service can use these services to do strong authentication for you. And they don't cost anything for the customer, and is really cheap for the company who wants to identify you. It is also build into the law that you must identify people using these, to avoid identity theft.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    How doss your bank identify you?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    By the card they issued me when I opened the account.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children)

    Idk, I've got my hands in a lot of financial cookie jars, and I don't recall ever being asked for something like this. At the very least, not in this manner.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    It's pretty standard for European banks thanks to Know Your Customer laws.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    If you keep in mind that it’s only done with special certified subcontractors, then yes. I would never give that information directly to a company like X. And yes, also those special companies are more times shady than they should be, but still.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    If you keep in mind that it’s only done with special certified subcontractors, then yes.

    Dunno what you're talking about here but I've had to go through something similar every time I've opened a new account with a financial service.

    But yeah, I would not trust Twitter/X either. Musk is too much of an emotional child following whatever whim takes his fancy that day.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I know there's a similar-ish process for accessing Spanish social security services online at least, and I believe it's the same for some other services as well.

    Then again, Spanish public services are not exactly the gold standard for digitalization.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Wait are you Spanish too? Those websites look like they've been made by a secretary's cousin that only knew how to copy and paste in the 90s

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    To follow his dystopian vision of Twitter as the Everything app, in the US it will have to be a bank at some point. The same way that Apple is now a bank in order to power parts of their wallet and payment platforms.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    The only government function that has ever wanted a "selfie" was for my drivers license and passport. Both of which feature that picture. But I've never done either through a site.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    It’s stupid as well, because it’s impossible to authenticate an id or passport from a photo. You can just photoshop something and send that in.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    incorrect. it is actually fairly easy to authenticate an id or passport from a photo. Photoshopping something is easily spotted by a trained eye. Source i work as a document expert for an online ID verification company. the amount of fakes we spot each day are fairly large and its not all automatically processed. Also for those people that don't know where there data is proccesed. there are actually a lot of laws in place to protect your data for example for EU citizens

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    Sure, a bad photoshop can be spotted, but you can’t spot it if the forger put in just a little bit of effort. The fact that you can spot some fakes doesn’t mean you spot all fakes.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    Hence why we have minimum picture quality were we reject if too low quality plus in 6 years of working i have only seen a handful of fraudsters put in effort. most don't put in effort and are either shoddy photoshops or people use camouflage passports(aka passports from non existing countries)the thing is that most printing techniques are easily visible on official passports. things like laser engraving and embossing are hard to photoshop and if people try they often look digitally replaced. But for doing my work it also has made we agree that not all companies need every data you have. But yes it does hell that i have done Print design before this job so know about how things are printed plus knowing how photoshop works

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child)

    So just ... photoshop and print a fake ID and ask a stranger to take a picture with it.

    I doubt you will see the ID clearly enough to make out the photoshopped parts.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    nah thats why we reject on bad quality if we can't see all the sec features or if documents are printed or on a screen. Things like laser engraving are actually easy to see the difference between Photoshop and real.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    YouTube does this sadly.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Seriously???

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    Only if you want to watch adult-themed videos, which they have been more lenient towards after the introduction of YouTube Kids and this measure. NewPipe and yt-dlp can still stream them, though, and you could also interact with the video (like, comment, save to playlists) using the official frontend last time I checked.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    Outside of services where you need to access it (ex. school / exams / government services), one beneficial one might be dating apps. There's an advantage to being verified.

    Although none of them ask for ID from what I understand, just "hold up 3 fingers and take a touch your nose" or something...

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