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[-] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

The Nonviolent and Violent Campaigns and Outcomes (NAVCO) Data Project is the world’s leading dataset on the characteristics and outcomes of nonviolent and violent resistance campaigns. The latest version covers 627 mass mobilizations in every country in the world from 1900-2021. The coverage is global but excludes maximalist campaigns (i.e. those seeking to overthrow an incumbent government, expel foreign military occupation, or secede).

Chenoweth and co-author Maria J. Stephan published their first analysis of the comparative outcomes of nonviolent and violent resistance campaigns in the 2011 book Why Civil Resistance Works: The Strategic Logic of Nonviolent Conflict. In this book, the authors aggregated data from 1900--2006 and concluded that, overall, nonviolent civil resistance was more successful in achieving target outcomes than campaigns that use violence. The more recent dataset featured in the interactive tool confirms this trend and extends it into the past decade.

[-] [email protected] -4 points 2 days ago

That didn't remotely answer my question.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

It did give the info needed to find this.

https://discuss-data.net/dataset/4a6a6c0c-1ca0-41ff-83de-39d22b55ef64/files/eddc4a97-5499-40c9-9a0e-d0c9147f0bac/

Violent campaigns on the other hand were defined as follows: “Violent resistance [...] involves the use of force to physically harm or threaten to harm the opponent.” (Chenoweth/Shay 2020: 5). Violent campaign data was primarily collected from different databases including: The UCDP Armed Conflict Database, the Correlates of War database on intra-state wars (COW), Clodfelter’s encyclopedia of armed conflict (2002), and Kalev Sepp’s list of major counterinsurgency operations (2005) (Chenoweth/Shay 2020: 5). To note is that should a campaign at some point during its lifespan shift from a non-violent campaign to a violent one or vice versa, that this campaign is then coded as two separate campaigns (Chenoweth/Shay 2020: 7).

This led me to believe they are analysing in a vacuum but that would only really be true for the Philippines example.

This review is a fantastic in depth analysis of the data and outcomes when violent flanks (apparently the research term describing the parallel movements that are not nonviolent) are included.

https://www.annualreviews.org/content/journals/10.1146/annurev-polisci-051421-124128#f1

Two tables analyse the purported and contradictory outcomes of the flanks in different research projects and papers. The authors conclusions are interesting to me in that he or she believes them to reduce long term success and increase short and mid terms, and also poiints out other factors in table 3 that affect the outcomes. One thing eluded to is that the societies perception of the movements being majority violent or non violent is actually the determining factor in the outcome and that I agree with in societies that presuppose nonviolence as a determining factor for success. I imagine nonviolence is a lit less important when you see yourself as occupied by an external force.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Thanks! That's very comprehensive.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I directly answered you and provided sources and background.

Maybe try reading on your own without a mentor for granting you reading comprehension

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

I think what they're looking for in terms of methodology is what objective criteria they use to determine if a protest is violent or nonviolent, as well as what constitutes success or failure. These are not trivial questions, and there's lots of debate surrounding virtually any given movement, so to make objective determinations about a large number of such movements raises the question of how they're resolving all these questions and debates. Some might argue that such questions are inherently political and up to interpretation.

As another user in this thread pointed out, it may be a case of confusing correlation with causation: if a movement is popular, it may be more likely to succeed and more likely to be considered nonviolent, as compared to a less popular movement employing the exact same tactics.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

No you didn't. I asked for the methodology, you didn't even remotely answer that.

Maybe try not lying about things that are easy to check.

[-] [email protected] -4 points 2 days ago

What was the lie? You sound like a sealion, the reference provided was a solid one.
If you want to question the Harvard Kennedy schools methodology then you can provide the evidence.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I already told you what the lie was, lol. And no, I'm not going to provide the methodology for your article, you lazy bum.

[-] [email protected] -3 points 2 days ago

i honestly cant be bothered looking up the methodolgy, could you?

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