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Not to be a downer but... how did people not anticipate this happening? Google is likely going to do everything they can to shut down non-official clients like Piped, since they're sidestepping all of YouTube's revenue streams. Hopefully they don't take the nuclear option and somehow lock down the API and make it much harder to download videos via tools like yt-dlp.
Yeah we're basically hurting their revenue by using Piped and other ways to bypass Google's ads. They wouldn't be profitable if everyone stopped watching those ads
Noooooooooo! The poor google 😢
their $412,378/s has been reduced to $412,367/s! 😭 😭
Yeah, they should provide thousands of gigiabits of video streaming to everyone for free. It's our right!
It's not for free. They use your data. Also most of these 'free' videos are made by enthusiasts.
Most of what they use your data for is to serve you ads. If you're blocking ads, that data isn't all that valuable.
They still have valuable data, they collect how interesting something is, so you're even contributing to the algorithm and you essentially advertise videos you're watching to other users with similar interests on the platform. People without adblock will come plenty.
That ad blocking on Youtube makes you a worthless user for anyone on there is just not true.
Enthusiasts who want to earn money off the platform, yes.
Ah yes, because humans never want to share information, or show others something they've achieved or created. The only possible motivation could be money.
That's not what I'm saying, but these people choose to upload their content to YouTube specifically, so what's your point?
That's there's not really another platform to upload to that you can easily share long form video content on, for free? I don't understand your point now.
My point is that nothing is free. You can't have it both ways.
What? My initial point was people wanted to share things like information or creativity and youtube is one of the only viable places to upload too. I literally don't understand your points.
Yes but they can't anyways because google never fixed their completely borked content ID system. Half the people I watch just assume that all of their videos will be demonitized anyways. They make all of their money off of patreon.
I'm no Google fan, but it's borderline impossible to moderate a site of that size. It's a legal nightmare that cannot be solved by just humans. Read some articles about the human moderators of sites like YouTube and Facebook. Those people see some shit.
But yes, YouTube should definitely improve their escalation system, and pay more attention to refuted strikes. It sucks to see innocent creators get punished by a broken system.
As a contributor who doesn't monetize videos, you don't speak for everyone.
Big platforms tend to forget they're big because they're free. It's our duty to remind them.
I wish the product was somewhat good too. Piped has features that even YT Premium users don't have.
They print money, sorry i lost my pity for multi billion dollar internet giants.
You know they wouldn’t get paid if nobody watched the ads. And if they didn’t get paid they wouldn’t have any reason to pay to run the site. Explaining that a corporation will not run a site like YouTube for free (which it wouldn’t even be, it costs a lot of money to run) if they weren’t getting paid. Quit attacking other users simply for pointing out facts. It’s beneath you (I think)
I never said that Google is on the verge of collapse, nor did I defend them. I merely stated that Google is a corporation, driven by profit, and expecting Google to act in the interest of anything but their own profits is a fool’s fantasy. Quit putting words in people’s mouths. It’s unbecoming of anyone that wants to have a legitimate discussion and it’s just toxic.
*paid
They’re making plenty of profit selling all of our data  and getting ad revenue from the 95%+ of other users who aren’t blocking them.
I'd wager that it's closer to 99.999%.
Yeah since i don't have any figures I just went sort of conservative with the estimate
Exactly, you either get my data or my money. That's how I feel about every service nowadays, I don't think its unethical to subvert payment requirements when they have been selling my privacy for years.