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Someone found this phone advertisment on Facebook (lemmy.ca)

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

That's cool. Unfortunately Linux phones, including Sailfish, aren't really fit for daily use yet, imo.

Also, the choice to use Sony phones confuses me. I cannot think of a worse design choice for a phone.

They aren't particularly secure, or particularly well built, I just don't see a reason to base the OS on them.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

”Yet” ??

I had the OG Jolla as my daily driver circa iPhone 4 era, and it was great experience overall. Running Android apps and whatnot. Eventually the camera and display quality made me stop using it. Still boot it maybe once a year for the fun of it… I think the Sailfish OS did even receive updates till ~2021.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

How does Sailfish get around most banking apps requiring Google play services, for example?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

It doesn't. Same kind of experience as degoogled Roms wrt that.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

So, again, not fit for use yet. Sadly. GrapheneOS works pretty well for now.

Let's see what happens with the latest developments where Google took some code closed-source.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Genuine question: is no banking app access really a showstopper, if that is the only thing missing? My bank app does not work on CalyxOS, but it has turned out to be no problem at all since I always use my laptop for serious banking tasks anyway. Are browser based bank apps starting to be phased out forcing people to use mobile apps? Is it just a preference?

For me, the lack of certain phone features has been the showstopper. I still need my phone to be a phone. So postmarketOS is not going to work on my phone. I recently learned that Ubuntu Touch supposedly has full support for my device, including phone stuff, and I want to test it out, but I am trying to get a cheap second-hand version of the device to test.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Its not just about banking apps, I just used that example as an escape goat.

Basically, I tried GrapheneOS briefly without Google play services, and there were some things I couldn't get to work (I can't recall now what since it was so long ago) but it was bothersome enough that I just installed it shortly after.

I still rely on services like Google play for some Apps (like Tasker), and i haven't gotten rid of Google Maps entirely although I can do 90% of what I need with other apps. Also, don't most apps need Gplay Services to feed you notifications? Not having notifications on my phone is a deal breaker for me.

Basically, for my threat model I just need to give as little data about myself to big tech, but not at the expense of too much convenience. I just can't imagine using a phone without Google Play services.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Do try out the "private space", you can install play services and gmaps in there and have it separate from the rest of your phone.

As for notifications: this heavily depends on your apps. I mainly use Signal, and the fdroid build has notifications without play services, and for protonmail I found "you have mail" which makes it work. And I live without whatsapp notifications

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