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Welcome to the first week of reading Trans Liberation: Beyond Pink or Blue by Leslie Feinberg!

Each week we'll read one chapter and discuss it in the comments. There are 8 chapters, and each chapter isn't too long, so this will be relatively light reading for most of you.

Also, THIS BOOK ISN'T JUST FOR TRANS PEOPLE. Obviously the book discusses trans issues, but as I've said before, it covers discussion on gender topics that would be relevant to basically everyone. So I highly encourage you to join if you're interested, regardless of whether you're trans or not.

To get started, here is a list of resources taken from the previous reading group session:

pdf download
epub download - Huge shout out to comrade @EugeneDebs for putting this together. I realized I didn't credit them in either post but here it is. I appreciate your efforts. ❤️
chapter 1 audiobook - Huge shout out to comrade @futomes for recording these. No words can truly express my appreciation for this. Thank you so much. ❤️
chapter 2 audiobook
chapter 3 audiobook
chapter 4 audiobook
chapter 5 audiobook
chapter 6 audiobook
chapter 7 audiobook
chapter 8 audiobook

Also here's another PDF download link and the whole book on ProleWiki.

In this thread we'll be discussing Chapter 1: We Are All Works in Progress.

CWs: Discussion of transphobia, abuse, SA. I should also mention since this came out in 1998, some of the language used might feel a little dated (specific language used is also a good topic of discussion imo).

I'll also ping a discussion list each week. Since this is the first week, the ping list will only include the few who've mentioned they're interested, but please let me know if you'd like to be added (or removed).

This is my first time doing something like this, so let me know if you have any feedback for me. Thanks!

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So the following section is one of my favorite quotes in the entire book:

Now another movement is sweeping onto the stage of history: Trans liberation. We are again raising questions about the societal treatment of people based on their sex and gender expression. This discussion will make new contributions to human consciousness. And trans communities, like the women's movement, are carrying out these mass conversations with the goal of creating a movement capable of fighting for justice — of righting the wrongs.

We are a movement of masculine females and feminine males, cross-dressers, transsexual men and women, intersexuals born on the anatomical sweep between female and male, gender-blenders, many other sex and gender-variant people, and our significant others. All told, we expand understanding of how many ways there are to be a human being.

Our lives are proof that sex and gender are much more complex than a delivery room doctor's glance at genitals can determine, more variegated than pink or blue birth caps. We are oppressed for not fitting those narrow social norms. We are fighting back.

Our struggle will also help expose some of the harmful myths about what it means to be a woman or a man that have compartmentalized and distorted your life, as well as mine. Trans liberation has meaning for you—no matter how you define or express your sex or your gender.

If you are a trans person, you face horrendous social punishments — from institutionalization to gangremoved, from beatings to denial of child visitation. This oppression is faced, in varying degrees, by all who march under the banner of trans liberation. This brutalization and degradation strips us of what we could achieve with our individual lifetimes.

And if you do not identify as transgender or transsexual or intersexual, your life is diminished by our oppression as well. Your own choices as a man or a woman are sharply curtailed. Your individual journey to express yourself is shunted into one of two deeply carved ruts, and the social baggage you are handed is already packed.

So the defense of each individual's right to control their own body, and to explore the path of self-expression, enhances your own freedom to discover more about yourself and your potentialities. This movement will give you more room to breathe - to be yourself. To discover on a deeper level what it means to be your self.

One thing that really stood out to me about this is how radically inclusive it is. I feel like efforts at categorizing different types of queer/trans people can sometimes drift towards gatekeeping and/or boxing people in. On the other hand, the definition of "trans" that zie presents in this book is inclusive of pretty much everyone who expresses their gender in a way that falls outside mainstream gender norms. I feel like this more inclusive definition makes it easier for trans people (including eggs) to accept their transness (example: internal questions of "Am I really trans?") as well as extending the scope of trans rights and social trans acceptance to a larger group.

Would love to hear other thoughts on this.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

That was the passage that made me tear up unexpectedly (specifically around the "Our lives [...] Our struggle" part) doggirl-cry I was really moved by how zie spoke plainly about the pain, suffering, and humiliation inflicted upon gender non-conforming people by a bigoted society while still giving voice to such a bold and hopeful vision for the future, as well as explaining to cis people that their freedom from the oppressive gender binary is also tied up in the struggle for trans liberation. You can definitely tell that the book was adapted from speeches: hir voice came through so strongly that it was like zie was right there in front of me. It's rare that I feel hope, but hearing people like Leslie speak with such conviction keeps that tiny ember alive. I'm really looking forward to reading the rest of the book, and thank you so much for hosting this reading group! cat-trans

only tangentially related personal musingsNot particularly related to anything in the chapter, but I felt a pang when I realized that Leslie grew up around the same time as my own mother, and yet their views on gender could hardly be more different. Well, that's a little unfair: my mother is no bigot, and I've never heard her say anything negative about trans people. But she also is someone who adheres strongly to societal norms, and I think a large part of that grows out of fear of judgment.

The other day she was randomly talking about how her neighbor's kid must have just graduated, and when I looked her name up in the school paper to see what her post-graduation plans were, rather than (what I presume to be) her deadname I found an unmistakably feminine name attached to her unique surname. In the silence, I could hear the gears in my mom's head turning, after which (to make a long story short) it was clear that she was considering the possibility that the neighbor kid was trans but dared not speak it as if it would bring a curse upon the kid's family or something. In the end, she changed the subject, and I didn't press the issue, which I regret. My feeble defense is that I'm deep in the closet and I wouldn't want to do anything that would garner suspicion, but if I'm honest with myself I think I was afraid to probe my mom's beliefs more deeply.

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