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In response to community feedback, Liberux is adding a cheaper, entry level option to it's crowfunding campaign

Source: https://mastodon.social/@Liberux/114637474399857143

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

... so why are eg flatpak apps less secure than Android ones?

And Play & Apple stores are full of unchecked scam apps. They basically are solving this by securing the os more. Yet apps (even Instagram) can still take pics without your action. I assume they listed in on you too.

The app (& SDK) argument I think has more to do with user- and dev-base. Something that Microsoft failed at in the mobile market. So basically we need a quality/seamless way of running Android apps on Linux.

And since we can run Win games on Linux very nicely I think this wouldn't be that much of an issue ... Tho minimal industry support (eg banking apps) is still needed.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I worded my comment badly. I was not talking about supply chain attacks, rather the ability to tinker on "proper" Linux which you don't get on Android.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Android is a semi-immutable (heavily modified and basically owned by Google) distro that runs app in sandboxes.

What is the difference?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

The difference between Android and "proper" Linux? You said it:

Android is a semi-immutable (heavily modified and basically owned by Google) distro that runs app in sandboxes.

That is not what "tinkerers" want. They want access to the system. I have not tried it but can you even run an android app from the command line? I guess you can somehow but that just brings me to my other point. You kinda have to be an Android dev to tinker with Android, while on "proper" Linux the learning experience is more granular.

edit: indeed running Android apps from CLI is not very tinker-friendly:

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6613889/how-to-start-an-android-application-from-the-command-line

[-] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Sorry, I couldn't follow/I don't think I understood you.

Why wound you want or need to run anything via CLI?

Most Linux users never use anything CLI (similar MacOS & Windows). Why would Linux phone users? And what does that have to do with android app devs?

The difference between Android and "proper" Linux? You said it:

But (what I said is that) all of that you can get in various Linux distros too - what I was saying that the basic difference for devs is Google/Android SDK.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

we need a quality/seamless way of running Android apps on Linux

Like Waydroid? There was a thread recently on that and it seemed (even though not necessarily a representative sample) most people used it for... games, not "actual" applications. They were NOT used for banking apps also (at least I don't remember anybody mentioning that) because I bet most people just go on their bank website for that.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

The issue is that the banking app is often the only way to get 2 factor authentication. The other way is to use SMS but that can be hijacked by social engineering attacks so it cannot be considered secure.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

use SMS but that can be hijacked by social engineering attacks

Can you please share an example? I'd be curious how that would work, especially if it works while understanding how it works.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

It's nothing sophisticated. You just steal someone's phone number by calling their phone service provider pretending to be them. I don't know how serious this threat is but for this reason SMS is not considered secure in the "security circles".

https://www.howtogeek.com/358352/criminals-can-steal-your-phone-number-heres-how-to-stop-them/

https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/cell-phone-fraud

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

... people miss Android ... to play Android games? Omfg.

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