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[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 114 points 1 year ago (30 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 30 child comments replies: [–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 57 points 1 year ago (4 children) OK, based on the comments, it's AI. This one isn't. A sheet of paper from mythbusters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MBM@lemmings.world 54 points 1 year ago it's AI Looks a lot larger than A1 tbh permalink fedilink source parent [–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) wasn't that foil? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vodka@feddit.org 13 points 1 year ago (1 child) No, that's from trying to fold paper more than 7 times. You might be thinking of the lead foil for the lead balloon? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago ah yeah permalink fedilink source parent [–] jjagaimo@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Telltales: floor too shiny, machines on the sides dont make sense, inconsistencies in piping in the ceiling, random floating bits on the top right, a few big shadows that dont match the windows instead of many smaller ones permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago The spacing on the lights up top is super weird. AI seems to have a real problem recreating consistent repeated patterns. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Wonky floor hole shape is what made me certain, didn't look too close at first and thought it was photoshopped. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (21 children) This image… I don’t know if it is AI or it isn’t… but it certainly feels like AI… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 21 child comments replies: [–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (1 child) That's how they make paper and a lot of other flat goods like tape. The manufacturer makes these gigantic rolls then there's this entire industry called converting where a company, a converter, takes it and process it down into a finished product. They may add adhesives, lamination or printing to it during the process. You can go to a store and buy 3M tape but 3M doesn't actually make it like that. They make a 12ft wide, 10,000 ft roll that someone buys and forklifts into a machine that cuts it into a bunch of smaller rolls that you can buy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago Those machines are referred to as slitters. I designed and built 2 for 3M Abrasive division back in the 1990's. Talk about a process that involves less than reliable hardware, (I never met an air bar or pneumatic web sensor I didn't hate), and enough wishful thinking to achieve the speeds 3M wanted them to run at that would make an Alchemist proud. I was constantly amazed that my designs even worked at all. permalink fedilink source parent [–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) Edit: it is AI generated, completely missed the genAI tag on the Adobe Stock website, and [4] is not a ton like I thought, it's 307kg It's listed on Adobe Stock photos[1] I did find other similar photos[2][3] so it looks like it's an actual thing that exists. Actually found a listing for a 1 metric ton roll of it[4]. [1] https://stock.adobe.com/fr/images/large-rolls-of-paper-at-a-paper-and-cardboard-production-plant-finished-products-rolls-of-paper-for-further-processing/689500501 [2] https://www.dreamstime.com/large-rolls-paper-cardboard-production-plant-finished-products-further-processing-image299294779 [3] https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/large-paper-rolls.html [4] https://m.kraftpaper-rolls.com/sale-11507857-100gsm-environment-friendly-natural-brown-kraft-paper-jumbo-roll-for-making-bag.html permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 year ago (2 children) The Adobe stock photos link says its generated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Holy shit. Ok I'm gonna make an ai to feed generated prompts into a generative AI, let it run for a week and sell the mountain of slop as stock photos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago Do it. You either get that cheese or they stop being shit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 7 points 1 year ago [2] is ai generated or so it says. [4] is real but not as big, and not quite a ton, it says '307kg'. permalink fedilink source parent [–] trd@feddit.nu 4 points 1 year ago Called a Tambur, usally between 15-25 tonns. Reason not bigger / heavier is that then it starts to damage "crushes" it self. permalink fedilink source parent [–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 3 points 1 year ago (12 children) Most certainly ai generated, many things in the picture don't make much sense when looked at in detail. First of all, who would leave that absolute unit of a roll in the middle of the factory? With an axle inside? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children) It's getting ready to be lifted like this: https://www.123rf.com/photo_135982015_paper-mill-production-of-paper-rolls-for-the-printing-industry-paper-rolls-in-a-factory.html The one thing that bothers me is the lack of chocks to keep it from rolling, but we can't really see in the black area, they could be there, or the floor could have an indentation or something permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago The photo is AI. There is a tag stating so, though it’s in French. https://stock.adobe.com/fr/images/large-rolls-of-paper-at-a-paper-and-cardboard-production-plant-finished-products-rolls-of-paper-for-further-processing/689500501 permalink fedilink source parent [–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 1 point 1 year ago This one's real, but in the other one there's no crane nor rails for it, and there's no machine where it can go in like you see in the back of this one. I can't put my finger on it but I have definitely ai vibes looking at it. As other commenter has said the machinery around doesn't make much sense either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Chocks are always fashionable, (and one should always be fashionable), but operators sometimes don't bother during a quick move. And those rolls often get a flat spot due to the weight when you set them down so they are hard to get rolling on a level surface. Even large rolls rolls of sheet steel don't roll easily on a level floor. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children) As you've been proven wrong, this is a good time to point out that accuracy rates of humans identifying AI pics is ~50%, or no better than guesswork. Keep that in mind the next time you declare something AI. YOU might be the reason an artist quits their passion, not AI Edit: Since I see how my statement might be misconstrued. I'm aware this particular pic is AI gen. I'm referring to OP's statement about the axle being nonsense, which somebody else showed is standard practice. And that doesn't really take away from my main point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Klear@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) As you’ve been proven wrong permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I was referring to OP's statement about the axle, which somebody else pointed out is standard practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klear@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm not buying that given the second half of your comment. You're just trying to weasel out instead of apoloigising. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago The freaking discussion showing the source and that it's AI predates my comment by over an hour. You can attribute whatever you like to my statement, I've clarified my meaning and if you've never written a comment and had it come out sounding like you meant something else, good for you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) How have I been proven wrong? The other commenter posted a (real) picture of a similar thing, that proves that these exist (which I haven't put into question), not that the other picture is not ai generated. They even said that some detail bugs them, so no one has 'proven' the first image is a real photograph. On the other hand, the poster of that link didn't say they're quitting art, just not posting it online. But even if that were the case, receiving (even unjust) criticism is part of being an artist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not sure if you saw my edit before replying. I'm just referring to your statement about the axle. I'm aware the pic itself is AI gen. receiving (even unjust) criticism is part of being an artist. What kind of logic is that? So let's just contribute to make things worse for them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago No I didn't, and like the other commenter I don't buy it either. My comment didn't say you don't put the axle into the roll, that's very common for machines that are roll-fed. My comment said you don't leave it laying around in the middle of a factory. Even with much smaller machines, eg a receipt printer, where you put the axle into the roll before installing it into the machine the axle is part of the machine and usually there's only one. You pull it out of the depleted one as you take it out from the machine, put it in the new roll, and install that roll on the machine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 57 points 1 year ago (4 children) OK, based on the comments, it's AI. This one isn't. A sheet of paper from mythbusters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MBM@lemmings.world 54 points 1 year ago it's AI Looks a lot larger than A1 tbh permalink fedilink source parent [–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) wasn't that foil? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vodka@feddit.org 13 points 1 year ago (1 child) No, that's from trying to fold paper more than 7 times. You might be thinking of the lead foil for the lead balloon? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago ah yeah permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MBM@lemmings.world 54 points 1 year ago it's AI Looks a lot larger than A1 tbh permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) wasn't that foil? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vodka@feddit.org 13 points 1 year ago (1 child) No, that's from trying to fold paper more than 7 times. You might be thinking of the lead foil for the lead balloon? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago ah yeah permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vodka@feddit.org 13 points 1 year ago (1 child) No, that's from trying to fold paper more than 7 times. You might be thinking of the lead foil for the lead balloon? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago ah yeah permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jjagaimo@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Telltales: floor too shiny, machines on the sides dont make sense, inconsistencies in piping in the ceiling, random floating bits on the top right, a few big shadows that dont match the windows instead of many smaller ones permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago The spacing on the lights up top is super weird. AI seems to have a real problem recreating consistent repeated patterns. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Wonky floor hole shape is what made me certain, didn't look too close at first and thought it was photoshopped. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago The spacing on the lights up top is super weird. AI seems to have a real problem recreating consistent repeated patterns. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Wonky floor hole shape is what made me certain, didn't look too close at first and thought it was photoshopped. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (21 children) This image… I don’t know if it is AI or it isn’t… but it certainly feels like AI… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 21 child comments replies: [–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (1 child) That's how they make paper and a lot of other flat goods like tape. The manufacturer makes these gigantic rolls then there's this entire industry called converting where a company, a converter, takes it and process it down into a finished product. They may add adhesives, lamination or printing to it during the process. You can go to a store and buy 3M tape but 3M doesn't actually make it like that. They make a 12ft wide, 10,000 ft roll that someone buys and forklifts into a machine that cuts it into a bunch of smaller rolls that you can buy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago Those machines are referred to as slitters. I designed and built 2 for 3M Abrasive division back in the 1990's. Talk about a process that involves less than reliable hardware, (I never met an air bar or pneumatic web sensor I didn't hate), and enough wishful thinking to achieve the speeds 3M wanted them to run at that would make an Alchemist proud. I was constantly amazed that my designs even worked at all. permalink fedilink source parent [–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) Edit: it is AI generated, completely missed the genAI tag on the Adobe Stock website, and [4] is not a ton like I thought, it's 307kg It's listed on Adobe Stock photos[1] I did find other similar photos[2][3] so it looks like it's an actual thing that exists. Actually found a listing for a 1 metric ton roll of it[4]. [1] https://stock.adobe.com/fr/images/large-rolls-of-paper-at-a-paper-and-cardboard-production-plant-finished-products-rolls-of-paper-for-further-processing/689500501 [2] https://www.dreamstime.com/large-rolls-paper-cardboard-production-plant-finished-products-further-processing-image299294779 [3] https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/large-paper-rolls.html [4] https://m.kraftpaper-rolls.com/sale-11507857-100gsm-environment-friendly-natural-brown-kraft-paper-jumbo-roll-for-making-bag.html permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 year ago (2 children) The Adobe stock photos link says its generated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Holy shit. Ok I'm gonna make an ai to feed generated prompts into a generative AI, let it run for a week and sell the mountain of slop as stock photos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago Do it. You either get that cheese or they stop being shit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 7 points 1 year ago [2] is ai generated or so it says. [4] is real but not as big, and not quite a ton, it says '307kg'. permalink fedilink source parent [–] trd@feddit.nu 4 points 1 year ago Called a Tambur, usally between 15-25 tonns. Reason not bigger / heavier is that then it starts to damage "crushes" it self. permalink fedilink source parent [–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 3 points 1 year ago (12 children) Most certainly ai generated, many things in the picture don't make much sense when looked at in detail. First of all, who would leave that absolute unit of a roll in the middle of the factory? With an axle inside? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children) It's getting ready to be lifted like this: https://www.123rf.com/photo_135982015_paper-mill-production-of-paper-rolls-for-the-printing-industry-paper-rolls-in-a-factory.html The one thing that bothers me is the lack of chocks to keep it from rolling, but we can't really see in the black area, they could be there, or the floor could have an indentation or something permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago The photo is AI. There is a tag stating so, though it’s in French. https://stock.adobe.com/fr/images/large-rolls-of-paper-at-a-paper-and-cardboard-production-plant-finished-products-rolls-of-paper-for-further-processing/689500501 permalink fedilink source parent [–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 1 point 1 year ago This one's real, but in the other one there's no crane nor rails for it, and there's no machine where it can go in like you see in the back of this one. I can't put my finger on it but I have definitely ai vibes looking at it. As other commenter has said the machinery around doesn't make much sense either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Chocks are always fashionable, (and one should always be fashionable), but operators sometimes don't bother during a quick move. And those rolls often get a flat spot due to the weight when you set them down so they are hard to get rolling on a level surface. Even large rolls rolls of sheet steel don't roll easily on a level floor. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children) As you've been proven wrong, this is a good time to point out that accuracy rates of humans identifying AI pics is ~50%, or no better than guesswork. Keep that in mind the next time you declare something AI. YOU might be the reason an artist quits their passion, not AI Edit: Since I see how my statement might be misconstrued. I'm aware this particular pic is AI gen. I'm referring to OP's statement about the axle being nonsense, which somebody else showed is standard practice. And that doesn't really take away from my main point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Klear@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) As you’ve been proven wrong permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I was referring to OP's statement about the axle, which somebody else pointed out is standard practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klear@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm not buying that given the second half of your comment. You're just trying to weasel out instead of apoloigising. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago The freaking discussion showing the source and that it's AI predates my comment by over an hour. You can attribute whatever you like to my statement, I've clarified my meaning and if you've never written a comment and had it come out sounding like you meant something else, good for you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) How have I been proven wrong? The other commenter posted a (real) picture of a similar thing, that proves that these exist (which I haven't put into question), not that the other picture is not ai generated. They even said that some detail bugs them, so no one has 'proven' the first image is a real photograph. On the other hand, the poster of that link didn't say they're quitting art, just not posting it online. But even if that were the case, receiving (even unjust) criticism is part of being an artist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not sure if you saw my edit before replying. I'm just referring to your statement about the axle. I'm aware the pic itself is AI gen. receiving (even unjust) criticism is part of being an artist. What kind of logic is that? So let's just contribute to make things worse for them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago No I didn't, and like the other commenter I don't buy it either. My comment didn't say you don't put the axle into the roll, that's very common for machines that are roll-fed. My comment said you don't leave it laying around in the middle of a factory. Even with much smaller machines, eg a receipt printer, where you put the axle into the roll before installing it into the machine the axle is part of the machine and usually there's only one. You pull it out of the depleted one as you take it out from the machine, put it in the new roll, and install that roll on the machine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (1 child) That's how they make paper and a lot of other flat goods like tape. The manufacturer makes these gigantic rolls then there's this entire industry called converting where a company, a converter, takes it and process it down into a finished product. They may add adhesives, lamination or printing to it during the process. You can go to a store and buy 3M tape but 3M doesn't actually make it like that. They make a 12ft wide, 10,000 ft roll that someone buys and forklifts into a machine that cuts it into a bunch of smaller rolls that you can buy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago Those machines are referred to as slitters. I designed and built 2 for 3M Abrasive division back in the 1990's. Talk about a process that involves less than reliable hardware, (I never met an air bar or pneumatic web sensor I didn't hate), and enough wishful thinking to achieve the speeds 3M wanted them to run at that would make an Alchemist proud. I was constantly amazed that my designs even worked at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago Those machines are referred to as slitters. I designed and built 2 for 3M Abrasive division back in the 1990's. Talk about a process that involves less than reliable hardware, (I never met an air bar or pneumatic web sensor I didn't hate), and enough wishful thinking to achieve the speeds 3M wanted them to run at that would make an Alchemist proud. I was constantly amazed that my designs even worked at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) Edit: it is AI generated, completely missed the genAI tag on the Adobe Stock website, and [4] is not a ton like I thought, it's 307kg It's listed on Adobe Stock photos[1] I did find other similar photos[2][3] so it looks like it's an actual thing that exists. Actually found a listing for a 1 metric ton roll of it[4]. [1] https://stock.adobe.com/fr/images/large-rolls-of-paper-at-a-paper-and-cardboard-production-plant-finished-products-rolls-of-paper-for-further-processing/689500501 [2] https://www.dreamstime.com/large-rolls-paper-cardboard-production-plant-finished-products-further-processing-image299294779 [3] https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/large-paper-rolls.html [4] https://m.kraftpaper-rolls.com/sale-11507857-100gsm-environment-friendly-natural-brown-kraft-paper-jumbo-roll-for-making-bag.html permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 year ago (2 children) The Adobe stock photos link says its generated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Holy shit. Ok I'm gonna make an ai to feed generated prompts into a generative AI, let it run for a week and sell the mountain of slop as stock photos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago Do it. You either get that cheese or they stop being shit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 7 points 1 year ago [2] is ai generated or so it says. [4] is real but not as big, and not quite a ton, it says '307kg'. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 year ago (2 children) The Adobe stock photos link says its generated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Holy shit. Ok I'm gonna make an ai to feed generated prompts into a generative AI, let it run for a week and sell the mountain of slop as stock photos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago Do it. You either get that cheese or they stop being shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Holy shit. Ok I'm gonna make an ai to feed generated prompts into a generative AI, let it run for a week and sell the mountain of slop as stock photos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago Do it. You either get that cheese or they stop being shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago Do it. You either get that cheese or they stop being shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 7 points 1 year ago [2] is ai generated or so it says. [4] is real but not as big, and not quite a ton, it says '307kg'. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trd@feddit.nu 4 points 1 year ago Called a Tambur, usally between 15-25 tonns. Reason not bigger / heavier is that then it starts to damage "crushes" it self. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 3 points 1 year ago (12 children) Most certainly ai generated, many things in the picture don't make much sense when looked at in detail. First of all, who would leave that absolute unit of a roll in the middle of the factory? With an axle inside? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children) It's getting ready to be lifted like this: https://www.123rf.com/photo_135982015_paper-mill-production-of-paper-rolls-for-the-printing-industry-paper-rolls-in-a-factory.html The one thing that bothers me is the lack of chocks to keep it from rolling, but we can't really see in the black area, they could be there, or the floor could have an indentation or something permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago The photo is AI. There is a tag stating so, though it’s in French. https://stock.adobe.com/fr/images/large-rolls-of-paper-at-a-paper-and-cardboard-production-plant-finished-products-rolls-of-paper-for-further-processing/689500501 permalink fedilink source parent [–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 1 point 1 year ago This one's real, but in the other one there's no crane nor rails for it, and there's no machine where it can go in like you see in the back of this one. I can't put my finger on it but I have definitely ai vibes looking at it. As other commenter has said the machinery around doesn't make much sense either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Chocks are always fashionable, (and one should always be fashionable), but operators sometimes don't bother during a quick move. And those rolls often get a flat spot due to the weight when you set them down so they are hard to get rolling on a level surface. Even large rolls rolls of sheet steel don't roll easily on a level floor. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children) As you've been proven wrong, this is a good time to point out that accuracy rates of humans identifying AI pics is ~50%, or no better than guesswork. Keep that in mind the next time you declare something AI. YOU might be the reason an artist quits their passion, not AI Edit: Since I see how my statement might be misconstrued. I'm aware this particular pic is AI gen. I'm referring to OP's statement about the axle being nonsense, which somebody else showed is standard practice. And that doesn't really take away from my main point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Klear@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) As you’ve been proven wrong permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I was referring to OP's statement about the axle, which somebody else pointed out is standard practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klear@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm not buying that given the second half of your comment. You're just trying to weasel out instead of apoloigising. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago The freaking discussion showing the source and that it's AI predates my comment by over an hour. You can attribute whatever you like to my statement, I've clarified my meaning and if you've never written a comment and had it come out sounding like you meant something else, good for you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) How have I been proven wrong? The other commenter posted a (real) picture of a similar thing, that proves that these exist (which I haven't put into question), not that the other picture is not ai generated. They even said that some detail bugs them, so no one has 'proven' the first image is a real photograph. On the other hand, the poster of that link didn't say they're quitting art, just not posting it online. But even if that were the case, receiving (even unjust) criticism is part of being an artist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not sure if you saw my edit before replying. I'm just referring to your statement about the axle. I'm aware the pic itself is AI gen. receiving (even unjust) criticism is part of being an artist. What kind of logic is that? So let's just contribute to make things worse for them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago No I didn't, and like the other commenter I don't buy it either. My comment didn't say you don't put the axle into the roll, that's very common for machines that are roll-fed. My comment said you don't leave it laying around in the middle of a factory. Even with much smaller machines, eg a receipt printer, where you put the axle into the roll before installing it into the machine the axle is part of the machine and usually there's only one. You pull it out of the depleted one as you take it out from the machine, put it in the new roll, and install that roll on the machine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children) It's getting ready to be lifted like this: https://www.123rf.com/photo_135982015_paper-mill-production-of-paper-rolls-for-the-printing-industry-paper-rolls-in-a-factory.html The one thing that bothers me is the lack of chocks to keep it from rolling, but we can't really see in the black area, they could be there, or the floor could have an indentation or something permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago The photo is AI. There is a tag stating so, though it’s in French. https://stock.adobe.com/fr/images/large-rolls-of-paper-at-a-paper-and-cardboard-production-plant-finished-products-rolls-of-paper-for-further-processing/689500501 permalink fedilink source parent [–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 1 point 1 year ago This one's real, but in the other one there's no crane nor rails for it, and there's no machine where it can go in like you see in the back of this one. I can't put my finger on it but I have definitely ai vibes looking at it. As other commenter has said the machinery around doesn't make much sense either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Chocks are always fashionable, (and one should always be fashionable), but operators sometimes don't bother during a quick move. And those rolls often get a flat spot due to the weight when you set them down so they are hard to get rolling on a level surface. Even large rolls rolls of sheet steel don't roll easily on a level floor. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago The photo is AI. There is a tag stating so, though it’s in French. https://stock.adobe.com/fr/images/large-rolls-of-paper-at-a-paper-and-cardboard-production-plant-finished-products-rolls-of-paper-for-further-processing/689500501 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 1 point 1 year ago This one's real, but in the other one there's no crane nor rails for it, and there's no machine where it can go in like you see in the back of this one. I can't put my finger on it but I have definitely ai vibes looking at it. As other commenter has said the machinery around doesn't make much sense either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Chocks are always fashionable, (and one should always be fashionable), but operators sometimes don't bother during a quick move. And those rolls often get a flat spot due to the weight when you set them down so they are hard to get rolling on a level surface. Even large rolls rolls of sheet steel don't roll easily on a level floor. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children) As you've been proven wrong, this is a good time to point out that accuracy rates of humans identifying AI pics is ~50%, or no better than guesswork. Keep that in mind the next time you declare something AI. YOU might be the reason an artist quits their passion, not AI Edit: Since I see how my statement might be misconstrued. I'm aware this particular pic is AI gen. I'm referring to OP's statement about the axle being nonsense, which somebody else showed is standard practice. And that doesn't really take away from my main point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Klear@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) As you’ve been proven wrong permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I was referring to OP's statement about the axle, which somebody else pointed out is standard practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klear@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm not buying that given the second half of your comment. You're just trying to weasel out instead of apoloigising. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago The freaking discussion showing the source and that it's AI predates my comment by over an hour. You can attribute whatever you like to my statement, I've clarified my meaning and if you've never written a comment and had it come out sounding like you meant something else, good for you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) How have I been proven wrong? The other commenter posted a (real) picture of a similar thing, that proves that these exist (which I haven't put into question), not that the other picture is not ai generated. They even said that some detail bugs them, so no one has 'proven' the first image is a real photograph. On the other hand, the poster of that link didn't say they're quitting art, just not posting it online. But even if that were the case, receiving (even unjust) criticism is part of being an artist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not sure if you saw my edit before replying. I'm just referring to your statement about the axle. I'm aware the pic itself is AI gen. receiving (even unjust) criticism is part of being an artist. What kind of logic is that? So let's just contribute to make things worse for them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago No I didn't, and like the other commenter I don't buy it either. My comment didn't say you don't put the axle into the roll, that's very common for machines that are roll-fed. My comment said you don't leave it laying around in the middle of a factory. Even with much smaller machines, eg a receipt printer, where you put the axle into the roll before installing it into the machine the axle is part of the machine and usually there's only one. You pull it out of the depleted one as you take it out from the machine, put it in the new roll, and install that roll on the machine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Klear@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) As you’ve been proven wrong permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I was referring to OP's statement about the axle, which somebody else pointed out is standard practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klear@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm not buying that given the second half of your comment. You're just trying to weasel out instead of apoloigising. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago The freaking discussion showing the source and that it's AI predates my comment by over an hour. You can attribute whatever you like to my statement, I've clarified my meaning and if you've never written a comment and had it come out sounding like you meant something else, good for you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) I was referring to OP's statement about the axle, which somebody else pointed out is standard practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klear@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm not buying that given the second half of your comment. You're just trying to weasel out instead of apoloigising. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago The freaking discussion showing the source and that it's AI predates my comment by over an hour. You can attribute whatever you like to my statement, I've clarified my meaning and if you've never written a comment and had it come out sounding like you meant something else, good for you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Klear@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'm not buying that given the second half of your comment. You're just trying to weasel out instead of apoloigising. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago The freaking discussion showing the source and that it's AI predates my comment by over an hour. You can attribute whatever you like to my statement, I've clarified my meaning and if you've never written a comment and had it come out sounding like you meant something else, good for you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago The freaking discussion showing the source and that it's AI predates my comment by over an hour. You can attribute whatever you like to my statement, I've clarified my meaning and if you've never written a comment and had it come out sounding like you meant something else, good for you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) How have I been proven wrong? The other commenter posted a (real) picture of a similar thing, that proves that these exist (which I haven't put into question), not that the other picture is not ai generated. They even said that some detail bugs them, so no one has 'proven' the first image is a real photograph. On the other hand, the poster of that link didn't say they're quitting art, just not posting it online. But even if that were the case, receiving (even unjust) criticism is part of being an artist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not sure if you saw my edit before replying. I'm just referring to your statement about the axle. I'm aware the pic itself is AI gen. receiving (even unjust) criticism is part of being an artist. What kind of logic is that? So let's just contribute to make things worse for them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago No I didn't, and like the other commenter I don't buy it either. My comment didn't say you don't put the axle into the roll, that's very common for machines that are roll-fed. My comment said you don't leave it laying around in the middle of a factory. Even with much smaller machines, eg a receipt printer, where you put the axle into the roll before installing it into the machine the axle is part of the machine and usually there's only one. You pull it out of the depleted one as you take it out from the machine, put it in the new roll, and install that roll on the machine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not sure if you saw my edit before replying. I'm just referring to your statement about the axle. I'm aware the pic itself is AI gen. receiving (even unjust) criticism is part of being an artist. What kind of logic is that? So let's just contribute to make things worse for them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago No I didn't, and like the other commenter I don't buy it either. My comment didn't say you don't put the axle into the roll, that's very common for machines that are roll-fed. My comment said you don't leave it laying around in the middle of a factory. Even with much smaller machines, eg a receipt printer, where you put the axle into the roll before installing it into the machine the axle is part of the machine and usually there's only one. You pull it out of the depleted one as you take it out from the machine, put it in the new roll, and install that roll on the machine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago No I didn't, and like the other commenter I don't buy it either. My comment didn't say you don't put the axle into the roll, that's very common for machines that are roll-fed. My comment said you don't leave it laying around in the middle of a factory. Even with much smaller machines, eg a receipt printer, where you put the axle into the roll before installing it into the machine the axle is part of the machine and usually there's only one. You pull it out of the depleted one as you take it out from the machine, put it in the new roll, and install that roll on the machine. permalink fedilink source parent