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Correct me if I'm wrong or sound bigoted, but this seems like an inclusive solution. It respects preferred gender, treats participants as equals during the event, doesn't need to bring hormones into the discussion at all, while still addressing TERF-y arguments about supposed fairness.
Transgender and cisgender women can compete at the same event geared for all women, and each athlete is treated the same throughout the competition, until the results. The only change being simply having separate rankings and sharing the podium: the top transgender and cisgender women can both take 1st place, if organizers judge that having been AMAB is a physical advantage for that sport.
On multiple occasions the bigots searched the London marathon's unranked noncompetitive division specifically to find trans women to try and bully out of the sport. That's not what anyone would do when concerned about fairness.
Any claimed concern about fairness is a smoke screen for their real goal of making trans people not exist.
You cannot appease them by changing how things are ranked. You cannot appease them by banning trans athletes outright. They won't stop at sports. Any appeasement in sports will just let them focus fully on the next right they're trying to eliminate.
Trans women are at a disadvantage in most sports, if they've been on HRT long enough. Appeasement is an admission that the bigots are right, but they aren't. You have to fight the bigots on every front.
No matter what you do, bigots will go out of their way to find people they don't like to harass, no matter how small the percentage is.
Another reply suggested all genders (cis and trans men and women and nonbinary) compete together, and/or removing rankings altogether, each person just decides how well they feel they did in the context of all runners. Do we really want to twist ourselves in a knot and make it harder for anyone but cis-men to have the highest scores, just for the appearance that we aren't appeasing TERFs? Many people are interested in being competitive in sports, so deliberately sidestepping the wedge issue without proper solutions doesn't seem tenable to me.
My suggestion was to keep a women's leaderboard, then slot every trans and non-binary person that competes there as tied with the closest cis-female competitor they scored with.