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[-] [email protected] 188 points 1 week ago

Can they really be called spaceships if they never get to space?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

They get to space, they just don’t stay in space. Like every vehicle meant to be crewed by humans.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Cybertrucks are spaceships, because they take up space.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

ok, but even a slight rain destroys them, they can't be ships

[-] [email protected] 110 points 1 week ago

Even worse - he named his space vessels 'Starship' - implying that they have the ability to travel between stars.

They will study this man's narcissism in future history classes alongside Trump. The era of the ego.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

Even worse worse, he named prior projects after Culture ship names. Whose author despised him.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

I mean by that definition, Voyager is a starship, eventually.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

Voyager I and II are probes, not ships.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

A ship can transport people or goods, and I argue that data is a type of good.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

Friendship transports a type of good.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

There's that golden record, so there are physical goods as well.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I would argue that its purpose as a probe outweighs its purpose as a ship, as such the specification of probe would still outweigh it being a starship by technicality.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah but we already have a less ambiguous name which is "probe" haha.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

People going to space are called astronauts - in this context I see no problem with Starship.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

I'm not sure how the context of the word "astronaut" justifies implying interstellar travel that you aren't capable of.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It justifies it by precedens. Aster means star - astronauts have been called people travelling to stars for a long time, even though interstellar travel is not possible for us yet, so naming their means of transport Starship is not out of line. It just follows a kind of funny naming tradition.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Is cosmonaut filled with as much hubris?

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Depends on interpretation. Cosmos is Greek for the universe

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Tbf, they are travelling through the Universe. But so are all of us, so we're all equally cosmonauts.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Time travelers too

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

You're right. I think it could be interpreted as space as well, a kind of universe sensu stricto, excluding our little round home.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

I can't find the article now, but there was a news article that talked about "interstellar missions to mars", and it drove me nuts

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

technically, travelling on earth (or anywhere else in the universe), is travelling between stars, because we're likely to be between 2.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

A car isn't a ocean cruiser just because it's always between two oceans

[-] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago

Technically they’re fireworks.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

Steamships don't sail on steam, but they're called steamships anyway because they have steam in them. Elon Musk's spaceships don't use up every bit of volume contained within them, therefore they contain space.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Don't steam ships use steam engines? (Or at least did historically?)

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago
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[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

The last one got into space ...and then caught on fire.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Which is impressive, as fire usually needs excess oxygen available.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Rockets carry oxygen (oxidizers) with them. It's kinda how they work.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah they've reduced safety for payload. The ship vibrates so badly the fuel lines get destroyed, mix, and cause the fires.

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