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The "AI agent" approach's goal doesn't include a human reviewer. As in the agent is independent, or is reviewed by other AI agents. Full automation.
They are selling those AI agents as working right now despite the obvious flaws.
They're also selling self-driving cars... the question is: when will the self driving cars kill fewer people per passenger-mile than average human drivers?
Right now they do between a combination of extra oversight, generally travelling at slow speeds, and being resticted in area. Kind of like how children are less likely to die in a swimming pool with lifeguards compared to rivers and beaches without lifeguards.
Once they are released into the wild I expect a number of high profile deaths, but also assume that those fatalities will be significantly lower than the human average due to being set to be overly cautious. I do expect them to have a high rate of low speed collisions when they encounter confusing or absent road markings in rural areas.
Not self driving but "driver assist" on a rental we had recently would see skid marks on the road and swerve to follow them - every single time. That's going to be a difference between the automated systems and human drivers - humans do some horrifically negligent and terrible things, but... most humans tend not to repeat the same mistake too many times.
With "the algorithm" controlling thousands or millions of vehicles, when somebody finds a hack that causes one to crash, they've got a hack that will cause all similar ones to crash. I doubt we're anywhere near "safe" learn from their mistakes self-recoding on these systems yet, that has the potential for even worse and less predictable outcomes.
Watched a Tesla do weird things at this intersection because the lines are painted erroneously. It stopped way back from where a sane person would in the left turn lane. I can only presume it was because the car in the center had their tires ‘over the line’ even though it’s a messed up line. There is plenty of room but it got confused and just stopped like the full ~3 car lengths back from the light where the road is narrower because of the messed up line.
There's more to it than that, there's also the cost of implementation.
If a self-driving car killed on average one less human than your average human does, but costs $100,000 to install in the car, then it still isn't worth implementing.
Yes I know that puts a price on human life but that is how economics works.
$100K for a safer driver might be well worth it to a lot of people, particularly if it's a one-time charge. If that $100K autopilot can serve for seven years, that's way cheaper than paying a chauffeur.
The issue will remain that liability will be completely transferred from individual humans to faceless corporations. I want self-driving cars to be a thing - computers can certainly be better than humans at driving - but I don't want that technology to be profit-motivated.
They will inevitably cause some accidents that could have been prevented if not for the "move fast and break things" style of tech development. A negligent driver can go to jail, a negligent corporation gets a slap on the wrist in our society. And traffic collisions will result in having to face powerful litigation teams when they inevitably refuse to pay for damages through automated AI refusal like private health insurance companies.
From what I know, those agents can be absolutely fantastic as long as they run under strict guidance of a senior developer who really knows how to use them. Fully autonomous agents sound like a terrible idea.