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[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Like, I get that there's people who are mocking AI for the wrong reasons, and they're silly for that, but there are very real reasons to dislike AI in many applications.

Would chatgpt be able to do this if their dataset had consisted only of ethically obtained data where the authors had provided consent? My money is on no, at least not yet. The technology is in its infancy and has powerful potential, but is having its progress boosted through highly unethical means.

I'm so very much for the concept of AI, its a monumental technology space at its core. But it needs to be done right, and I fear that it never will be, and we will have to live with the sins of the existing models forever. I hope I will be wrong.

If we can reach a future where models are trained on entirely consensual data and the environmental impact of their training and usage isn't as dire, I'd be so happy.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

@apotheotic The issue with copyright is an inevitable misstep that was bound to happen while figuring out this technology. However, some of criticisms aren't about ethical issues surrounding copyright, they are about the marketability of skills (such as painting) that you either had to learn yourself or otherwise needed to pay someone to do for you.

Now you can do that with an AI. Great for disabled people who can create freely now, bad for the artists who exploited that for financial gain.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I don't think 'disabled people' need a computer to generate content to participate in art creation, and I don't think artists making art is exploitation. The artists, meaning anyone who ever had their art posted online, are the ones being exploited here, their work was stolen and made to work for tech investors.

Even if these were tangible benefits they are a small compensation for the accelerated degradation of our shared planet, the mass robbery of nearly everyone on earth, and the further damage to our ability to critically think and create. And on top of that, the stuff it generates isn't even very good.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

@The_Sasswagon AI is not destroying the planet, it literally didn't exist until a few years ago. The way we produce energy is the problem, and that won't go away if we banned AI.

AI is actually accelerating the timeline on a lot of important research, things that were decades away are now just years away. That alone might be what saves the climate.

If it was as simple as using less electricity by using less technology, it wouldn't be so hard to abandon your smartphone.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

It's using endless electricity and water to perform tasks I could do powered by a bowl of cereal in the morning. I'd rather need one solar panel than ten, and a river rather than a dried up well, personally, but ever increasing energy demands require the latter two.

If by accelerating you are referring to making the problem worse so we have to deal with melted ice caps sooner, then I agree! I for one don't really trust turbo predictive text to solve the collapsing jet stream, but I sure do expect it to play a part in causing it. Or maybe just the extraction of increasing material from colonized countries to pay for our funny memes and your "art" through solar panel and battery. Either way, it is contributing in a very real way to the destruction of our planet for little gain that could be achieved more efficiently by other means.

The cool part about a smartphone is I actually wanted it and it did a thing nothing had before (except some PDAs maybe). Also living without one is very possible and I do so frequently, I'm not a chronic poster or social media user. Machine learning with a gui on it is neither something I wanted nor is it novel, and it is not improving the world we live in, it is making it worse.

The saving grace is this fad will pass as it becomes clear it's the same as home automation, block chain, machine learning, the concept of web domains, etc. and it's mostly been hype by tech investors all along. I would care about it a whole lot less if it weren't so full of negative externalities.

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