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[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Like, I get that there's people who are mocking AI for the wrong reasons, and they're silly for that, but there are very real reasons to dislike AI in many applications.

Would chatgpt be able to do this if their dataset had consisted only of ethically obtained data where the authors had provided consent? My money is on no, at least not yet. The technology is in its infancy and has powerful potential, but is having its progress boosted through highly unethical means.

I'm so very much for the concept of AI, its a monumental technology space at its core. But it needs to be done right, and I fear that it never will be, and we will have to live with the sins of the existing models forever. I hope I will be wrong.

If we can reach a future where models are trained on entirely consensual data and the environmental impact of their training and usage isn't as dire, I'd be so happy.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

@apotheotic The issue with copyright is an inevitable misstep that was bound to happen while figuring out this technology. However, some of criticisms aren't about ethical issues surrounding copyright, they are about the marketability of skills (such as painting) that you either had to learn yourself or otherwise needed to pay someone to do for you.

Now you can do that with an AI. Great for disabled people who can create freely now, bad for the artists who exploited that for financial gain.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I don't think 'disabled people' need a computer to generate content to participate in art creation, and I don't think artists making art is exploitation. The artists, meaning anyone who ever had their art posted online, are the ones being exploited here, their work was stolen and made to work for tech investors.

Even if these were tangible benefits they are a small compensation for the accelerated degradation of our shared planet, the mass robbery of nearly everyone on earth, and the further damage to our ability to critically think and create. And on top of that, the stuff it generates isn't even very good.

[-] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago

@The_Sasswagon They do if they aren't physically capable of holding a brush, instrument, etc.

This allows people like that to paint, create music, etc. entirely on their own, by their own hand (or voice), without relying on the services of a skilled artist who might not be able to capture what that person is imagining.

People who don't have time to learn painting can now bring beauty into the world that would have otherwise never left their head.

Artists are complaining about that. Fuck them.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I feel like I am just repeating myself, disability does not prevent creative expression? A broken arm does not define your ability to paint. Perhaps one medium or another is more challenging but art has many many forms and we have been managing for thousands of years without a tech startup reinventing art. And not every culture in history has been as ableist as the one while live in today. Anyone can already make meaningful art.

As for not having the time, I think that's an excuse for taking a shortcut using other people's art and trying to make it their own. It won't be as impressive, no matter how long they spend typing prompts into the computer, the person badly sketching mushrooms on their 10 at the local coffee chain is far more inspiring.

I wish we lived in a time where we were allowed to do what we loved and I may be a little envious of the people who are able to, but they have a right to complain that their work is being stolen and invalidated by people who don't value it.

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