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Hey fellow inhabitants of the Fediverse, particularly those lurking on Lemmy,

I've been thinking a lot lately about the nature of information, discourse, and where genuine human connection can still thrive online. It leads me back to platforms like this one.

We often talk about censorship in terms of direct bans or content removal, which is obviously a critical concern. But what about the more insidious forms of control? I'm talking about the subtle fiddling of algorithms, the deliberate hiding of certain content without outright deletion, the 'shadowbanning' that makes you feel like you're shouting into a void. How resistant is the decentralized nature of Lemmy, and the wider fediverse, to those kinds of pressures? It feels like the very architecture here might offer a unique defense, but I'm curious about the community's thoughts.

I know we're not exactly bursting at the seams with users, and frankly, if you're not already clued into how something like Lemmy works, you're probably never finding it through a casual search – SEO seems like a foreign concept here, battling potential duplicate content issues across instances. Is this quiet corner its strength, or its eventual downfall if the 'outside' world becomes too noisy?

Speaking of noise, it feels like nearly 90% of the content generated on the broader internet these days is starting to feel like it's churned out by LLMs. Autogenerated articles, comments, even entire 'conversations' that ring hollow. Is the Fediverse, specifically, a safe haven from that rising tide of artificial content? Does the human-centric, community-driven nature of these instances inherently push back against such automation?

I've looked into ActivityPub and other federation tools in the past, and my observation has often been that they've been adopted primarily by marginalized groups in society, seeking refuge from mainstream platforms. While that's incredibly valuable and a testament to their utility, what could truly happen to extend this concept, to genuinely get more people involved without compromising the very principles that make it appealing – decentralization, human curation, and resilience against algorithmic manipulation?

Just throwing it out there. Would appreciate any insights or theories.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

well Lemmy isn't just one thing, its decentralized, and historically decentralized stuff is a lot harder to hit.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

It makes some things hard and some things easier. For example, you can more easily defend against DoS attacks because there's just more targets.

But decentralized makes it easier for bot manipulation because you can hide your actions across multiple users on different instances and those instances can't easily identify bot signatures like IP addresses to ban many accounts.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I don't really understand how it would be, since things get duplicated across any federated instances. If anything it amplifies the spam since it auto-dupes it everywhere.

You might say everyone could just defederate, but at that point the damage is done, no? Not to mention if they're using bot armies they can just send them at any new instances that spin up.

this post was submitted on 28 May 2025
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