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Urine, an actual Belgian beer (double IPA) (i.postimg.cc)
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[–] 12 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

Yes, basically double means that the alcohol level is greater than an "ordinary" beer which would be qualified of "simple" (but that term never appears). Double is around 7%, triple around 8/9% and there are also quadruple.

One other meaning is about the number of fermentation steps, but historically that's not the true meaning and more of a recent marketing argument, because all "special beer" as we say in Belgium have 2 fermentations. The main one transforming sugar to alcohol and a secondary during the "keeping" period, usually in bottles and helping to develop the specific taste of the beer. Some recipe includes adding some yeast to refine the taste, so some brand speak about triple fermentation.

Sorry if the English terms are not the best, I tried to explain from what I know but I don't know beer specific wording in English so I translated literally from French for the words I didn't knew.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Mmm, this might be anecdotally true but more broadly double and triple IPA's are (in theory) double the hops, not necessarily alcohol. It was more of a description of flavor notes than of the content of alcohol, though, so sometimes that included extra fermentation steps and sometimes more alcohol, but always the flavor was intended to be stronger and more hoppy/bitter.

    The strength of the beer isn't particularly unique to IPA's (be they single, double, or triple varieties) as someone else pointed out. I'll never forget getting a belgian tripel while traveling in europe, and it completely knocked me on my ass it was so unexpectedly strong. I didn't know a beer could be strong without being undrinkably bitter

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    it's the alcohol. lots of (single) ipa have significantly higher hop bills than double and triple. the original gravity and yeast sets the ABV. many doubles are smoother in mouthfeel than singles, although run the risk of having a boozy aroma.

    and bitterness is related to hop content, but specifically alpha-acid hop additions, so it can be controlled independently of the aroma hops.

    secondary fermentation is common in many styles, other than ipa, and doesn't typically have a huge influence on alcohol content, but rather allows flavors to mature, or become more pronounced. more yeast falls out of solution, for a clearer beer, and it can naturally carbonate.

    some yeast strains will cause extra fermentation as time goes on, including when it's bottled or aged in a cask, but that is not the case for most commercially available ipa.

    and if you really want a smooth, drinkable, high alcohol beer, try finding a Baltic porter!

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I'm not saying it's the quantity of hops, i'm saying it's the hop-forward and fragrant flavor characteristic of IPA's. You said it yourself - there are plenty of other high ABV content beers that aren't as bitter or hoppy as single, double or triple IPA's. More than that - there are plenty of straight IPA's that have the same or similar ABV as some double or triple varieties.

    High ABV often comes with the double or triple label -true enough- but the origin of those beers wasn't a desire for a higher alcohol content but (in true American form) a doubling-down on the unique flavor of the IPA, characterized by the bitter hop-forward profile of the historic India Pale Ales (which were made to survive longer trade routes from England without spoiling originally). The Triple IPA designation is more recent and less common and does get cited as an option for higher ABV content by some brewers, but that's not the case for most double IPA's and it's more of a recent trend that I wouldn't say is typical.

    if you really want a smooth, drinkable, high alcohol beer, try finding a Baltic porter!

    Yea no argument here, plenty of other beers with enough kick to end your day early without the bitter aftertaste

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