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I'm looking for something that can do chat, video calling with support for guess links and chats. I need it to work in the browser so I can send people a link to a chat session. Bonus if it has a simple mobile app and calendar integration.

Anyone know of something that isn't Nextcloud Chat?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I use jami but i dont think it fits your need for guess links.

Still leave it here just in case

https://jami.net/

Jami is a free/libre, end-to-end encrypted, and private communication software.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Jami is a stability and security nightmare

I wouldn't recommend it

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Please tell us more about the actual security problems!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Have you actually dug into the internals? It is pretty bad. Large poorly maintained code base with poor cryptography. Theoretically it is fine but I'd rather use Signal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 34 minutes ago* (last edited 33 minutes ago)

It's true there are a lot of better alternatives to jami when it comes to privacy/security: Here's a good comparison table:

https://www.messenger-matrix.de/messenger-matrix-en.html

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Im using it for 3 months now and I did not notice any stability issue. One time I experienced a long delay in receiving a message.

Do you have any details on why its a security nightmare?

All communications are peer-to-peer and end-to-end encrypted.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

It is a massive code base which doesn't seem to get a lot of maintenance due to lack of developers. Jami also lacks a security audit which doesn't build confidence

From a security perspective it uses dTLS which isn't great for metadata sensitive applications. Message delivery is also finicky since it depends on peers working reliably.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Care to expand on that? I am seriously considering that as part of my post-skype future.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I would look into Jami, Signal and maybe Simplex Chat