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[โ€“] [email protected] 405 points 17 hours ago (9 children)

I disagree with that framing, someone not buying your shit is not the same as you losing money. Inkscape saved millions for graphic designers, which is very different. Adobe was not entitled to that money, you can't lose something that was never yours.

[โ€“] [email protected] 166 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Subtle distinction, but actually pretty huge. I agree with you. Companies also use this to say that pirating is stealing, when they never had the business in the first place.

[โ€“] [email protected] 35 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. I'm pirating because I can't afford to pay hundreds of dollars each month to watch all the movies and shows that I do. If I didn't have the opportunity to pirate, I still wouldn't afford it legitimately...

[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

It's also a great way to demo games and other software if you can afford it before you waste money on something that has no value to you. This is especially useful when you're on a tight budget.

[โ€“] [email protected] 16 points 15 hours ago

Just put in your credit card for the 7 day trial! Totally easy to cancel, pinky promise

[โ€“] [email protected] 61 points 16 hours ago

"I bought a lottery ticket and didn't win. I lost 50 millions dollars!"

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[โ€“] [email protected] 19 points 14 hours ago

You are right, of course, but I personally draw a great of pleasure from imaging the CEO of Adobe screaming, "CURSE YOU MARTIN OWENS!!!"

[โ€“] [email protected] 17 points 16 hours ago

I had exactly 0 intention of ever buying anything from Adobe.

Inkscape gave me an alternative to the high seas. And it happens to do everything I need it to, although it's way more powerful than the simple vector graphics conversions I use it for.

10/10, Adobe never lost money from me getting Inkscape. They lost the game before they knew I was a player.

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 16 hours ago

I was prepared to scold you for being pedantic, but upon further reflection, Iโ€™ve concluded that you are 100% correct, and your point is germane to the conversation at hand, so you get an upvote instead.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

I agree. I would never have bought Adobe, I would have not the little bit of vector drawing I have done.

I'm grateful for InkScape, but I wouldn't have bought or downloaded anything otherwise, so I neither saved nor did Adobe lose.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

Right, it's akin to saying he stole that money from Adobe the same way the media companies imply that poor people making digital copies of music and movies they wouldn't be able to afford otherwise is theft.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Companies talk about lesser earnings as losses all the time.

[โ€“] [email protected] 23 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

And they're wrong all the time

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago
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