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Finland to criminalise Holocaust denial (yle.fi)

submitted 3 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Let's say better late than never.

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

No, "cultural genocide" is not genocide. There is a pretty clear legal definition:

.. any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

Culture is a part of ethnicity, however.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's pretty hilarious how tankies suddenly start quibbling over definitions once China is mentioned.

Where's that definition from?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Raphael Lemkin, who first coined the term, defined genocide as "the destruction of a nation or of an ethnic group" by means such as "the disintegration of [its] political and social institutions, of [its] culture, language, national feelings, religion, and [its] economic existence".[2]During the struggle to ratify the Genocide Convention, powerful countries restricted Lemkin's definition to exclude their own actions from being classified as genocide,[3][4] ultimately limiting it to any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group".[5] While there are many scholarly definitions of genocide,[6]almost all international bodies of law officially adjudicate the crime of genocide pursuant to the Genocide Convention.[7]

From that wiki page, and I appreciate the just barely academically masked sass about why it’s such a narrow definition

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

So is regime change to bring about a liberal democratic government also considered cultural genocide? Like if I'm working against the Saudi monarchy and Wahhabi religious order of laws (which is their long term culture) am I guilty of genocide?

Was the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan cultural genocide? Is forced rendition or even "nation building" genocide? Guantanamo? Rendition?

Are Starbucks and McDonalds guilty of genocide for spreading their "franchises" (Temples of a neoliberal globalist culture really) everywhere?

Is the "culture war" against the institutional racism in the USA a cultural genocide? After all it's a culture of racism... are the atheists really conducting a cultural genocide with their War on Christmas!? Oh God! Are we the baddies???

If you're in Finland, don't deny any of this! It's illegal now!

PS: Sorry this is a late reply, and obviously it's argued to absurdity.

this post was submitted on 15 May 2025

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