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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 week ago (35 children)

The general comments that Ben received were that experienced developers can use AI for coding with positive results because they know what they’re doing. But AI coding gives awful results when it’s used by an inexperienced developer. Which is what we knew already.

That should be a big warning sign that the next generation of developers are not going to be very good. If they're waist deep in AI slop, they're only going to learn how to deal with AI slop.

As a non-programmer, I have zero understanding of the code and the analysis and fully rely on AI and even reviewed that AI analysis with a different AI to get the best possible solution (which was not good enough in this case).

What I'm feeling after reading that must be what artists feel like when AI slop proponents tell them "we're making art accessible".

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I dunno. I feel like the programmers who came before me could say the same thing about IDEs, Stack Overflow, and high level programming languages. Assembly looks like gobbledygook to me and they tell me I'm a Senior Dev.

If someone uses ChatGPT like I use StackOverflow, I'm not worried. We've been stealing code from each other since the beginning."Getting the answer" and then having to figure out how to plug it into the rest of the code is pretty much what we do.

There isn't really a direct path from an LLM to a good programmer. You can get good snippets, but "ChatGPT, build me a app" will be largely useless. The programmers who come after me will have to understand how their code works just as much as I do.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

fuck almighty I wish you and your friends would just do better

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