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[–] [email protected] 64 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

A lot of comments here are displaying their ignorance of nuclear technology.

Keep eating up the oil company talking points, I guess. "hey guys remember those nuclear meltdowns from outdated reactors that had all kinds of things going wrong because of poor design and decision making, most of which is no longer an issue? Yeah things blow up so better keep chugging away at those fossil fuels while we sabotage any investments into renewables"

I mean goddamn, the "worst" disaster in the USA was a big nothing burger that was sensationalized by newspapers that knew how to sell a headline, and oil companies that knew how to leverage any sort of negative press to their advantage.

When the fallout from nuclear disasters doesn't come close to the amount of radiation out off by burning and refining fossil fuels, there is no argument.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago

the "worst" disaster in the USA

The 3-Mile Island incident hit two weeks after The China Syndrome hit theaters. (A movie about a runaway nuclear meltdown.)

Otherwise the story would have been, "A tiny poof of radioactive steam got loose, everything was handled quickly and perfectly, no big deal, and back to you Tom (Brokaw).

[–] [email protected] 44 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah things blow up

I would stop them right there and ask when the last oil spill was.

It was last month. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oil_spills

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 hours ago

Even without oil spills. The fossil fuel method of dealing with waste is to vent it into the atmosphere. Nuclear only does that when something goes very wrong, and even then it causes significantly fewer fatalities.

You could have a Chernobyl every single day and still kill fewer people than coal and oil.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago

Why do you think that those against nuclear energy are for fossil fuels? My building has solar panels, and backup power comes from either wind turbines or the hydraulic dam down the river.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The safety aspects alone SHOULD be enough to convince people, yet here we are.

The difference between nuclear-power- related disasters and fossil fuel related disasters is astronomical.

And honestly the amount of radioactive isotopes that get spewed out from burning coal day in day out for decades on end absolutely dwarfs the amount of radioactivity released from nuclear disasters.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

one dangerous thing being less unsafe than another doesn't make it safe.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

And nobody suggested it did.

But the argument of "it's more unsafe" doesn't apply, that was my whole point.

If one thing is less unsafe than another, why the fuck WOULDN'T you want to switch the the DEMONSTRABLY LESS UNSAFE THING

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

yeah, decentralised photovoltaic- & -thermic cells, wind and river turbines, biomass.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yep. So much of this shit from "environmental activists" that have no fucking clue how any of this works. It's been shown time and time again that nuclear is the answer for base load energy requirements with minimal environmental impact.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

When and where? Nuclear is very very expensive. Nuclear doesn't work well as baseload since while you can turn it off rather quickly you can't turn it back on fast when it's needed again

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't that the point of baseload? To cover the non-highs, but provide the stable base?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

No, you want the baseload to take over when there isn't enough much cheaper renewable energy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

That's what they just said? Just in different words

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

....that's why it would be used as a baseload. I.E. something that you never really turn off because that amount is always required.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

That works against renewable resources, which should provide 100% or more during normal days. Which would mean you have to take off wind turbines from the net to keep nuclear going, that makes investing in wind less attractive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Then you reduce the output of the nuclear plants. I'm not sure where you are getting that it takes them forever to start up nuclear power. You just raise and lower control rods to increase or decrease the heat they are releasing, which lowers the steam produced, which starts/stops some turbines. It's not like the fastest system out there, but afaik it's easily doable in the span of an hour or two.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago

Investing in wind doesn't need to be attractive, it needs to be part of a government-owned national energy infrastructure plan that gets it where it needs to be and where it'll serve the needs of the people the best

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Nuclear doesn't work well as baseload since while you can turn it off rather quickly you can't turn it back on fast when it's needed again

Nuclear is best used for baseload, since while you can turn it off rather quickly you can't turn it back on fast when it's needed again

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You want to turn of your baseload when there is enough cheap wind and solar energy... Like that's the whole point of baseload

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Power plants that do not change their power output quickly, such as some large coal or nuclear plants, are generally called baseload power plants.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_load

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

These are two excellent videos by Kyle Hill, explaining where we are with nuclear power. They're Invidious Links, because I block all trackers from Google, which means youtube doesn't work for me. I put the titles beside the links in-case people want to search them up themselves. The War in Ukraine, The Far-right, the intolerance and the propaganda on social media. It's because they want to push us to war. Electric cars, plus modern nuclear power means the end to the artificial energy crisis. Means the end to Petrostates like Russia, Saudi Arabia and what the US is fast turning into. The fossil fuel industry has suppressed this technology for the last 70 years. That is why they need us at war, because there are no electric tanks. Anyone who is skeptical about nuclear power, I urge you to watch these. I promise you, threatening Denmark over Greenland will make a lot more sense with this context.

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BcoN2bdACGA Why Isn’t Thorium Changing the World?

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=4aUODXeAM-k We Solved Nuclear Waste Decades Ago

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Thank you for the videos. The links didn't work for me, though, so for anyone else for whom it doesn't work, here are the links:
https://youtu.be/4aUODXeAM-k
https://youtu.be/BcoN2bdACGA

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

The fossil fuel industry has been suppressing all alternatives to fossil fuels. They have entire research departments that work on inventing green energy solutions and then they patent them and shelve them.