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[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Oh, those big pickup trucks do serve a purpose beyond vanity for a lot of us. My big 4-wheel drive Dodge Hemi has to do things no Kei can possibly do. I've got a couple of trailers that your Kei couldn't even begin to move just half loaded. And one that it couldn't even move empty. So your blind blanket statement shows a serious lack of critical thought on the subject.

If you had seen me in town earlier this week at the clinic with my what you refer to as a "monster drive.tough.mydickisbig" truck, you wouldn't have seen the oils, greases, and other sundry items that I need to live in the middle of a very rural forest. And they were all things I do not want to haul in the "family" vehicle.

Now while I do sort of agree that many people that don't need a large pickup, there is no way to tell if they do or don't unless you know them personally. Perhaps they are a trades person who needs to pull and enclosed trailer filled with tools and supplies or maybe it's a family that has a fishing boat or pontoon boat they use when the weather is nice, maybe a couple of jet skis or a camper/ice fishing house. (Unless you want to outright ban the existence of such things) If you can tell the difference between someone who owns one for sheer vanity vs a need at a mere glance, then scientists really need to study you in a lab somewhere.

Kei trucks have a niche and reason to exist. And they are a great idea and can solve some issues in dense urban areas most definitely. But my big Hemi also fills a niche and has a reason to exist that no Kei type truck or Tuk Tuk can even start to fill. They both fill two very different types of needs and uses. They are both dangerous in their own ways, (what tool isn't dangerous). And they can both exist in the same space.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What value does your very rural lifestyle in a forest provide to greater society, to such an extent that society and the environment should subsidize the infrastructure and fuel required to support your large truck?

By all means live your very rural lifestyle with a massive truck, jet skis, campers, and fishing houses, but you are a special snowflake in a blizzard of millions - if not billions - of people who can and want to live as part of a flourishing and sustainable society. You should pay the real costs of driving your big truck.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

I've hooked a trailer to my fuckin jetta, my sister still has a trailer hooked to her civic. There are other countries that have workers who do the same thing you are doing, but with practical sized vehicles.

Growing up we had a 1950's model ford, and a 1990's Chevy s-10 as our two farm trucks. I drove that S10 starting at 11 years old. We had the big tractor and the little one. More than enough to get the job done. Dont know why you'd want to move used oil in the same truck you drive to the clinc, but that's a choice.

I grew up likely with similar people/way of life you did and yet my opinion is different. Doesn't mean I'm not informed. My jetta pulled a motor boat to a lake. Little vr6 with big fuckin balls. My sister is building her own house by hand, and uses her civic with a trailer. Other nations/cultures favor vans to harbor tools and such.

Im mostly seeing vanity trucks with four foot beds out in my small rural community, bordered by university "small city". My redneck uncles back in the 90s even agreed extended cabs were for yuppies, and my god how the culture has changed.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

what tool isn’t dangerous

I can think of one who owns a Hemi and won't shut up about it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're welcome to own a Grand Cannoneer for all I care. Just pay for the fucking externalities of doing so is all I ask. I'm sick of leeches demanding a free ride for their choices.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

I have no need of one. But I do need to own a heavy duty pickup truck.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Have you heard of Land Rover?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Why yes I have. Not available within 800 mile of me. But a Suburban is bigger. Still, a bumper hitch is not as good as a 5th wheel hitch for my 24,000lbs tandem tilt bed trailer.......

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

You can fit a fifth wheel hitch on a Land Rover, and tow more.

Stop trying to justify stupidly over sized vehicles.