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I'm trying to install Proxmox on a server that is going to be running Home Assistant, a security camera NVR setup and other sensitive data, I need to have the drives be encrypted with automatic decryption of drives so the VMs can automatically resume after a power failure.

My desired setup:

  • 2 Sata SSDs boot drives in a ZFS mirror
  • 1 NVME SSD for L2ARC and VM storage
  • 3 HDDs in a RAIDz1 for backups and general large storage
  • 1 (maybe more added later) HDD for Camera NVR VM.

I'd prefer every drive encrypted with native ZFS encryption automatically decrypted by either TPM 2.0 or manually by a passphrase if needed as a backup.

Guide I found:

I found a general guide on how to do something similar but it honestly went over my head (I'm still learning) and didn't include much information about additional drives: Proxmox with Secure Boot and Native ZFS Encryption

If someone could adapt that post into a more noob friendly guide for the latest Proxmox version, with directions for decryption of multiple drives, that would be amazing and I'm sure it would make an excellent addition to the Proxmox wiki ;)

My 2nd preferred setup:

  • 2 Sata SSDs boot drives in a ZFS mirror with LUKS encryption and automatic decryption with clevis.
  • All other drives encrypted using ZFS native encryption with ZFS key (keys?) stored on LUKS boot drive partition.

With this arrangement, every drive could be encrypted at rest and decrypted on boot with native ZFS encryption on most drives but has the downsides of using LUKS on ZFS for the boot drives.

Is storing the ZFS keys in a LUKS partition insecure in some way? Would this result in undecryptable drives if something happened to ZFS keys on the boot drive or can they be also decrypted with a passphrase as a backup?

As it stands right now, I'm really stuck trying to figure this out so any help or well written guides are heavily appreciated. Thanks for reading!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you can do this with key files and a systemd-timer at boot. I’m not near a machine right now to post how I’ve done it in the past, but I’ll try to remember to come back to this when I can.

It may be helpful to know that the former r/zfs community has migrated to a Discourse server at practicalzfs.com. Might be worth asking there for some expert advice.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

It may be helpful to know that the former r/zfs community has migrated to a Discourse server at practicalzfs.com. Might be worth asking there for some expert advice.

I tried posting there, but the mods haven't been there in a couple of days to approve my post. I tried posting on reddit but since reddit is a garbage website that noone should ever visit, I was immediately shadowbanned and noone has seen my posts.

Thanks for your post.