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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

This.....is hard to believe. I've been looking around non-major US cities, and even some major cities, and the starter homes are around 200-500k.

That's still fucked for a starter home but a million?????? That's the average home price in Honolulu and NYC lol.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

i was going to say its avg in the west coast blue area. 200-500k is "cheap"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (4 children)

It literally sounds super fake.

I can't find a single major city without 200k to 350k homes lol

It takes like 30 seconds to check what starter homes cost in any city, yet people will believe this shit instead of just go look.

Edit: this is the "source" https://www.zillow.com/research/million-dollar-start-home-2025-35100/

Just 1 chart with literally zero further info, no published actual data of where these numbers came from, how they calculated them, how they gathered the data.

Why do people fall for empty garbage articles like this so easy. I wish we collectively called this out more.

If a person posts an article citing another article, instead of just the original article, they should get fuckin blasted for it and downvoted to hell.

Post. Original. Sources.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I quite kiterally cant find anything in my city for less than 900k, and they are rare

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Try looking in San Francisco, or any city in the entire Bay Area. You won't find a 500sq ft shack for less than $800k.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

3 seconds of looking and I found five houses under 500k. Two of them genuinely look pretty decent too tbh, not even rough looking homes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

All of them are actually apartments, 530 square feet or less. One doesn't even have a price listed.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Doesn't sound super fake if you are looking for a place with what I think are pretty reasonable basic characteristics of comfort and security.

House that can accommodate a small family not in a higher than average crime area, does not require fix up maintenance that those of us working long hours will never have time to do or can't afford to have done, has been well cared for and doesn't feel gross. I'm not talking luxury homes here, I'm just talking about something that you would at least look forward to coming home to.

When I see all these people buying these homes, I'm just shocked at how they have either accrued so much wealth or are so comfortable with so much debt.

It's pretty tough out there right now.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 hours ago

approximately half of homes have to be in higher than average crime areas, if there's nothing wrong with the home it can just be purchased and rented out by a megacorp immediately, wealth accumulates over time so that selling a house will provide about enough to buy house and have lower average monthly cost than renting.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

"When I eliminate all the homes that normal people would classify as a starter home, I can't find any starter homes!"

"Wait to buy a starter homes you are telling me I can't live in a rich gentrified white neighborhood, I might have a black guy for a neighbour? That just won't do!"

"Sorry anything not within 5 blocks of a Starbucks can't possibly count as a starter home"

This is what people sound like when they talk about "safety" and "crime rates" and "starter homes" in the same sentence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 39 minutes ago

That's a weird spin mam

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

As someone who has lived in and priced out homes in major US cities, I find this article to be accurate.