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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (9 children)

why do some people hate kids so much?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll attempt a real answer. I don't hate kids or the parents of kids who care for them and raise them to be good people.

I hate that societal pressures place having kids at the near top of life's implicit goals. I hate that my wife and I almost had kids because of these pressures, when neither of us really wanted it. And if it weren't for one (slightly older than us) couple we were friends with sharing that they were childfree, we would be there, and likely unhappy about it. So we speak out, not out of hate, but just to provide the other side, it ok to have kids... It's ok to not, it's a choice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Totally fair. Societal pressure is something to completely ignore though. Everyone doing the 'pressuring' can go fuck right off.

I have a kid. Second one on the way. I also don't like kids. None of them. I tolerate mine. I mean, I do all the good parenty things and stuff, but I can't wait for them to grow into adults.

That's the whole reason I want kids. Not because I want kids. But because I want adults I can call my children. Frankly, I don't know why, I just know I do. And I'm prepared to make the endless sacrifices that come with it. And I totally understand other people who don't want to do it.

Also, I hope to be able to raise some decent humans. The world can use those. It seems like assholes are breeding like crazy. I hope to offset that a little.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I see no hate in this thread.

We just don't want kids (or don't want to be around them). Doesn't necessarily mean we hate them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

idk, "shitty fucking kids" sounds pretty hateful and uncalled for

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Let's be real, just like adults, some kids are awful. I've known good parents that get dealt a terror of a child.

Also, it's a meme that is obviously over the top. Child free people also don't have money falling out of their pockets. Don't be so serious.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Kids suck and parents break their backs trying to act like kids are the best thing ever.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You know what else is uncalled for?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Showing up in a group people use to vent and saying the very same kind of shit people are there to vent about.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"We don't want kids to be any near of us, which is totally not hating them"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't want homeless people near me either. Doesn't mean I hate them, or wish them poorly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

This is probably an unpopular opinion. But seriously tho.

I also want to give them free housing and jobs. Just leave me alone at the goddamn intersection.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Oh I love kids. Totally.

When they're not mine. Means I can give them back when they get defective and need maintenance.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I don't not have a boat because I hate boats. Same applies for kids aswell.

I must say tho thay when ever I hear my friends talk about their kids it's rarely about how nice they are.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't hate kids, but it would be a horrific nightmare for everyone involved if I had some of my own. Never wanted them, never will. I do adore my niece.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

it's okay to not want them, but calling them "shitty fucking kids" or "crotch goblins" or other stupid names is a different matter and only reflects badly on the person who says these things

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You are in a community devoted to the decision to not having kids. Just pointing that out since there does seem to be some confusion.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which totally shouldn't justify it becoming an echo chamber of child-haters

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It doesn't justify it at all, but it does add context

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Why do you even care? CF people aren't going to bother you or your uninteresting children

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

...check the community name, my dude

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I mean I don't want kids myself but the sheer toxic hatred of kids some people have is unhealthy imo.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Because they had a bad life and think they were "forced to be born (and then new humans would live a life as miserable as theirs)"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Everyone that has existed did have existence forced upon them though.

Doesn’t mean you have to be miserable, but existing was not a consensual decision (as far as we are currently able to understand).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gifts aren't consensual ;)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Noisy pestilent stupid destructive little goblins that demands your attention, resources and sleep lest they die. And should the child grow up to be dysfunctional shithead you are to blame. And should you recognize that you can't raise the child and give up for adoption, society brands you a failure and possibly induce massive trauma on the child.

But as my friend says: "they are cute while they're sleeping"