[Off-Topic] Should we purge doomers?
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Hi everyone!
As a mod, I started getting some reports on people commenting doomer stuff under posts. They're not really great, they're demotivating and most importantly not really fit this communities vibe. I'm not fond of them, but I can't go removing comments and banning people left and right, because technically, they not breaking any rules. So I feel that the community discussion is in order.
If we going to implement a rule against doomers, I think it is very important to define the rule clearly, for it not to be too broad. So I propose the phrasing "blatant doomerism". Here are examples:
- Blatant doomerism\doomer trolling (comment gets removed, user banned if spams to many comments like this):
- adequate discussion with some doomerism (nothing gets to be done by mods, discussion in the comments goes as usual)
So, the discussion is welcome. If I missed anything, or even if it's not needed and there should be no change to the rule set, or you have anything to add, feel free to comment.
Update: rule is added, up and running! If you have critique or something to add feel free to comment here.
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this post was submitted on 31 Jan 2025
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I think it needs to be defined with more specificity than "blatant doomerism", both to make it more clear when to enforce rather than "I know it when I see it" and also to prevent unfair bans to people talking about something that's a bummer in good faith.
I don't think an environment of toxic positivity is healthy and I fear such a broad definition could foster one, i.e. "oh I can't say that or I might get banned"
on the whole though I like the idea of an additional rule added of the sort. it doesn't seem like the person(s) in the first examples given was saying anything in good faith.
I also think the punishment should give a lot of grace, like first a warning and comment removal before any ban.
edit: a word
I absolutely agree that it should be defined specifically, I'm just can't quite figure out how it can be articulated more clearly. I'll think about it more and then update the post.
Yes, indeed. I think ban is justifiable if the person in question caught doing it under every post. Other than that, comment removal and warnings are enough