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I love France and all, but let's not pretend they have good coffee culture. What passes for cappuccino there... The horrors I've seen.
Coffee lovers and cappuccino are mutually exclusive terms IMHO :D.
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Well, if it's before 11AM at least
It's crazy, food is top notch, or what you pay for it, but coffee is always the french 3/4. So not very good.
To be fair, they invented it and the Italians refined the espresso in 1961 so.
Part of why it's relatively bad is because they still make it the same way as they did back then
Sure, but the "third wave" coffee is even worse IMO.
Is that foamy lattes w syrup?
Nah, the "hipster espresso" I'd call it. Usually tastes sour, "but that's normal, not everyone can appreciate all the 'flavours' "
Ah, I am guilty of liking that. But I do think it is a very different taste than regular dark roasted chocolaty coffee and they should suprise you with a funky light-roasted one as their standard bean. Those are more suited for specialty places where they have multiple grinders with multiple beans.
Sure no problemo ! But why can't they have an espresso that at least is somewhat like a real Italian one ...
Especially if is a specialry place, a classic Italian espresso should be on the menu for sure 100%
You'd need an italian trained barista though :-)
There is plenty of good coffee in Paris, but you need to go to typically smaller places where they only make that.
Although I don't drink milk much anymore I wouldn't know if the cappuccino they make is good.