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Canadian industries are pushing back against the country's planned January launch of the Modern Slavery Act, intended to fight forced labour and child labour in supply chains. Mining and apparel trade groups say the government has failed to spell out the details of the law's requirements.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My understanding, which may be out of date, is that goods made in prisons aren't generally sold (they go to supply the prisons themselves, or other government programs), so it isn't a commercial supply chain, and inmates who work are supposed to be volunteers. So it's likely to slither through based on one or the other of those things.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Your understanding is hella wrong. Also is it any better if they make stuff for the military industrial complex? You're also wrong about supposed to be voluntary. Sure it's voluntary, but inmates gets punished one way or another if they don't.

https://www.mashed.com/785722/whole-foods-used-prison-labor-for-this-product-until-2015/

https://www.nycfoodpolicy.org/prison-labor-is-remarkably-common-within-the-food-system/

A wide variety of companies such as Whole Foods, McDonald's, Target, IBM, Texas Instruments, Boeing, Nordstrom, Intel, Wal-Mart, Victoria's Secret, Aramark, AT&T, BP, Starbucks, Microsoft, Nike, Honda, Macy's and Sprint and many more actively participated in prison in-sourcing throughout the 1990s and 2000s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_labor_in_the_United_States

It's literally in the 13th amendment, slavery is legal for inmates.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

13th amendment is not applicable in Canada. Note which community you are posting in πŸ™‚.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

But is there labour from American prisons in Canadian supply chains?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I never claimed anything I said held true for the USβ€”the prison system is completely different there. Canadian prisons have Issues, but they tend to be about overcrowding and such, not the prison-industrial complex that exists south of the border.

Recently, we've even stopped stripping prisoners of the right to vote in federal elections.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But is there labour from American prisons in Canadian supply chains?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Possibly (it's impossible to tell from outside the companies commissioning the goods where specific supply lines go), and yes, the law should be applied against companies using foreign prison labour unless it's been specifically worded to dodge that case. As for whether it has been so worded, well, I'm not a lawyer, but I can't see why it would be favourable for the legislature to do so, since they're not likely to get votes, Canadian jobs, or even much goodwill from the US out of allowing that kind of loophole.

That being said, someone will probably have to bring a court case to get the law enforced against firms using US prison labour specifically. I'd expect that to take anything from a few years to a couple of decades. Once it gets to that point, I expect that the courts will apply the law as written (which may or may not be the law as intended).