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You might say, "but I'm not a conservative so this doesn't apply." Except you watch them walk around in conservative skin suits and youre not screaming in horror. (lemmy.world)
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[–] 30 points 1 year ago (14 children)

False. He still meets the core conservative values of being white, blonde, straight, cisgender, and male. And “Christian”. But above all else, bigoted and anti-intellectual.

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  • [+] -21 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    They are the values of paleoconservatism and should not be misused to represent conservatism in general. Perhaps you are listening to the angry mob instead of informing yourself, which is not a clever thing to do if you want a united country.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    If conservatives had actual values, they'd be screaming as loud as the left. Some do, and did,.but Liz Cheney was chased out of Congress for doing what she felt was right.

    Individual exceptions do not at all argue against the sad reality that "conservatism" is just regressive bigotry, and as such lacks any collective principle worth bothering to learn or debate.

    Why should anyone take claims of "conservative values" seriously when they are routinely discarded whenever they stop being convenient?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    What are your traditional conservative values? What are we conserving by not allowing gay people to get married? What are we conserving by denying man-made climate change and refusing to invest in green energy when it is so obviously and undeniably the future? What are we conserving by encouraging women to be thoughtless, subservient housewives? What are these core values that are so valuable?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

    The fuck is paleo conservative? How fucking stupid do you want to be? Are you just moving goalposts? How fucking stupid do we need to get?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Paleo-conservative is the bullshit peddled by people like Pat Buchanan. They overlap with the "the South will rise again!" people. They are not big fans of Jews. But the larger point stands, all the taxonomy around conservatism is a way to distract from the fascism.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Why ask me when you can find out yourself with a few clicks? Heaven forbid we take a second to improve, for sake of all this division we got going on. It's even uniquely American, specific to the things you raise, and not well-loved by traditional conservatives for obvious reasons.

    It's that lack of pursuing knowledge that leaves 39% of Americans vulnerable to fallacies like, "this is conservative (paleoconservative ideals); you say you are conservative; therefore you are this" and of course they buy in.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Ah yes the neoconservative the neoliberal the paleoconservative and then what’s next? The paleoliberal what’s next the even more Paleolithic gov? What makes more sense the Kennewick liberal or the Kennewick conservative? How much shit do you need to make up?

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago

    Heh. "Make up".

    I know these things, yet you are the one that lives there. Thank you for underscoring what I have said. But based on your combative attitude, I'm sure none of it will get in. You are more likely to go on creating further division between you and your countrymen, as you die complaining about the consequences of a divided country.

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