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[Solved] What just happened to 4 million posts? (feddit.uk)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by to c/fediverse@lemmy.world
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Stats from here: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats

Like, has an instance gone down and if so, why hasn't there been a comparable drop in users and comments?

Edit: Thanks to @example@reddthat.com here for pointing to zerobytes.monster becoming more aggressive against bots as the likely culprit.

Graph showing the number of Lemmy posts over time, with a large drop from ~12.5 million to ~8.75 million between the 9 April and 11 April.
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[–] 96 points 2 years ago (29 children)

It may have been lemmy.zip

It did in fact go down for about 48 hours... prompting me to make this new account on dbzer0.

Basically, the admin attempted to update to a newer lemmy version... and it failed, multiple times, and they just rolled back, restored the old version, posted an explanation and apology, and they'll be further looking into ... exactly what went wrong.

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  • [–] [S] 38 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    But zip has < 50K posts.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    i apparently cannot figure out ascii shrugs, nvm

    I don't know exactly how that post counter ... actually, technically counts posts, but:

    1:

    Zip going down could have uncounted all posts anywhere made by zip accounts.

    2:

    There could have been some kind of... propogating post count negation effect, as various other instances reacted differently to zip users posts on their instances could not pull them anymore, on different time scales.

    3:

    If a zip user had a ... top level comment, on another instance, its possible all lower level comments responding to that comment may also have poofed out of existence, in some respect.

    ...

    I may be misusing some terminology here, and this is just spitballing, but yeah.

    Almost all of my .zip account's posts/comments... are not on zip itself, and its possible that that is fairly common amongst .zip users.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    i apparently cannot figure out ascii shrugs, nvm

    ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ => ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Just so we're clear, what this crawler does is go through all servers that use ActivityPub known to it, and congregate that data to a list of known services (Lemmy, Mastodon, Piefed etc.). How is does that is by querying a standardised end point to get the instance info (.well-known/nodeinfo which will then point to a different path to get the actual info).

    For instance, here's what it will collect for feddit.uk:

    nodeinfo json

    // curl -s https://feddit.uk/nodeinfo/2.1 | jq
{
  "version": "2.1",
  "software": {
    "name": "lemmy",
    "version": "0.19.10-feddit",
    "repository": "https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy",
    "homepage": "https://join-lemmy.org/"
  },
  "protocols": [
    "activitypub"
  ],
  "usage": {
    "users": {
      "total": 4184,
      "activeHalfyear": 718,
      "activeMonth": 485
    },
    "localPosts": 25750,
    "localComments": 122835
  },
  "openRegistrations": true,
  "services": {
    "inbound": [],
    "outbound": []
  },
  "metadata": {}
}

    The important stat here is the localPosts, which is all the posts made by local users in any community, local or remote. It does not include posts by users from remote instances made in local communities. You can also see this data on the instance sidebar in lemmy-ui.

    lemmy.zip going down will only reduce aggregated stats for total posts by 47,280, as that's what they report for their localPosts.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (20 children)

    Is divide by zero becoming the most based instance? How did a single bro make best lemmy?!?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    That's the most based thing I've heard all year--where can I learn more about this decentralization endeavor?

    That's it--I'm making an account now. This comment sealed the deal

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    I'd say dbzer0 is probably the most leftist, at least from what I've seen. I personally don't go as far as being an anarchist but can appreciate the philosophy. I probably have more in common with anarchy than democratic/plurality governance, if I'm being honest with myself.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Wait... dbzer0 is "divide by zero"?

    I've been reading it as "dibzer nought"

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    Lately I've been seeing a lot of comments coming from that instance that are indistinguishable from the ones I see from .ml.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    The admin db0 does have a distrust in democracy

    Clarification: Representative/Capitalist democracy. Not all types of democracy.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    I'm not familiar with it

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago*

    While this seems better than a lot of others, these types of systems are very easily manipulated by mass media, so functioning inside capitalism is already a massive problem. In any case it's difficult to judge the efficacy, only with one rich protected nation as an example. The biggest thing is that labour is pacified a lot by a high standard of living, which is supported by the imperialism of the other nations supporting them.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Hm, could be indeed

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